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14 years ago
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i contacted digidigi.com regarding their film processing, proofing, and scanning.

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PROCESSING

C-41, 135-film, 24exp. = $6.75 per roll
C-41, 135-film, 36exp. = $7.75 per roll
C-41, 120-film = $6.75 per roll
C-41, 220-film = $12.00 per roll
C-41, 4x5" film = $2.40 per sheet
E-6, 135-film, 36 exp. = $9.50 per roll unmounted, $11.50 mounted
E-6, 120-film = $7.75 per roll
E-6, 220-film = $12.50 per roll

Clip tests are $5.00 per test
Pushing or Holding is $2.00 per roll and $1.00 per sheet



PROOFING

4x6" = $0.55 each
4x5" = $1.30 each
5x5" = $1.30 each



SCANNING

135-film for a 8x12" print requires a scan of 25mb -> $4.50 per neg for 1 to 9 originals
120-film for a 20x20" print requires a scan of 103mb -> $14.50 per neg for 1 to 9 originals
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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here's some prices for f/11 in bozeman.

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PROCESSING

C-41, 135-film, 24exp. = $4.00 per roll
C-41, 135-film, 36exp. = $4.00 per roll
C-41, 120-film = $4.50 per roll
C-41, 220-film = $9.00 per roll



SCANNING
at time of processing (or with an uncut roll) for 135-, 120-, or 220-film, includes cd-writing fee:
"high resolution" is $10 per roll
"maximum resolution" is $15 per roll

or with cut film,
$1.50 per strip of 135-film at "high resolution"
$3.00 per strip of 135-film at "maximum resolution"
$5.00 cd writing fee
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14 years ago
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:D

Update us when you get something scanned and can comment on f/11's quality.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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will do. i'm picking the stuff up from f/11 today at 5pm.
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f/11's high resolution images are 1544×1024px and their max. res. images are 3088×2048px.

the quality is decent. so at max. res., you can get a nice 12×18" print.
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http://cloudfront.wingedleopard.net/lucas/img … _scans.png
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14 years ago
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ack
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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what?
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14 years ago
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pretty awful-looking grain
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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it is?
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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you don't think so? what kind of film was it?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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consumer-grade fuji 800 iso
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14 years ago
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more suggestions

so far, one person has recommended scancafe.com. they might be fine, but they certainly appear to cater to consumers.
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14 years ago
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http://archive.popphoto.com/popularphotograph … -scan.html

that page has pop-ups, so i'm copying their article.

The 24-Cent Scan
ScanCafe's new service lets you outsource a chore -- digitizing old negatives and slides.

By John Owens
December 2007

"This is too good to be true," I said to myself, when I met Sam Allen at a restaurant in Santa Monica, CA.

Allen told me that his 18-month-old start-up, ScanCafe, would digitize negatives for 19 cents apiece, and slides for 24 cents.

"Yeah, right," I said. "The going rate is around a buck, and often you pay more."

That's why most of us with hundreds -- if not thousands -- of analog images do it ourselves. In fact, my July Editorial was loaded with tips for the high-volume scanning DIYer.

But Allen insisted that ScanCafe scans each slide and neg individually at 3000 dpi on a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED. Plus, there's Digital ICE automatic scratch and dust removal, as well as a bit of manual clean-up in Adobe Photoshop. Also, the files would be burned to a DVD, and all the original material safely returned to me.

"C'mon," I said. "Gimme a break!"

But Allen is a dead-serious former Marine with an MBA from the Wharton School, and he seemed quite sincere.

Then he mentioned India, and it all became clear -- Allen would be shipping my priceless images off to India, and in exchange for the risk, I'd get cheap scans.

But before I could get up to leave, Allen began explaining that the India connection was really the beauty of this business.

Unlike operations in everything from manufacturing to customer service that are outsourced to lowest-bidder contractors in the developing world, ScanCafe has its own 165-person staff and its own facilities in India, managed on a day-to-day basis by an Indian-born Wharton grad.
John Owens HeadshotAsk John

I took the bait.

Using my wife's credit card and name (not Owens), I registered at www.scancafe.com. Then I stuffed 365 sleeved slides into a box. Pulled from my attic, these slides were Kodachrome, Ektachrome, and Agfachrome from the early 1970s to mid 1990s. Some were pristine, others fairly dirty. I printed out a UPS Ground label from the ScanCafe site, taped it to the box, and handed the package over to the guys in brown uniforms. The box went to ScanCafe's California facility. They sent my wife an e-mail when it arrived, and charged her credit card for shipping and half the scanning cost: $52.64.

Forty days later, an e-mail announced that the scans were posted. That is, they were available for review on the ScanCafe site. Looking them over, I could decide which to take and pay for. That's right -- only after they're scanned do you have to commit; ScanCafe lets you dismiss up to half the scans. But I can't resist a bargain, or my own photos, so I bought them all.

Soon after, UPS delivered a package containing a DVD of the scans and all of the slides returned to their original sleeves.

The attention to detail was impressive. And so were the scans. JPEGs averaging 2700KB, they were at least as good as I would have done. And the dust and dirt that marred some of the original slides were gone in the files. Nice.

Elapsed time: 61 days. Total cost: $105.46

In all, I'm a believer. So now, when Allen says his operation can do pro-caliber work (make 4000-dpi scans of slides and negs, serve up TIFFs), scan prints at 600 dpi for 27 cents (1200 dpi for a little more), clean up b&w negatives (typically a challenge for Digital ICE), and guarantee that my pictures will make it back from India, I don't doubt him.

lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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costco's max res is also 3087×2048 px at about 18 MiB. they charge $2.99 per cd, and they'll put as many images on the cd as possible (about 35). that would cost $23 at f/11.

f/11 and costco offer the same resolution. so go to f/11 and waste $20!
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14 years ago
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Now I just need a costco card.
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14 years ago
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this evening, i took in six rolls of processed film (in strip form). they charged me $2.99 per roll for the cd, plus the $1.59/roll processing fee (i guess because they had to scan them again).

so get scans at the same time as processing!

i did notice that costco mis-cut one of the strips that they processed this spring--they cut into a frame a bit. :(

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conclusion:

costco is still probably the best option for c-41 processing ($1.59/roll). you get files that will produce 8×10" prints at 300dpi (for $2.99/cd). if you want 4×6" proofs, those are cheap too ($0.10/each).

tell costco to not cut the negatives. i hate strips of four, anyway, which is what they cut.

if you need high-res scanning, do it yourself. buy an epson v500 for only $150! :D

for good quality prints, go to whcc.com.

f/11 is a waste of money. their prints are worse than whcc and cost more than whcc. their scans are the same as costco and cost way more than costco.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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digigraphics (digidigi.com) quit doing processing. becky: you should post the news here.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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it's for the best, apparently
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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not gonna post it there?
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Probably not, Adam already gave first-hand knowledge about how they suck
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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sucks

that's why it's amusing. they sucked, and now they quit doing it. (maybe someone told them?)