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14 years ago
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i got my econometrics exam back today. i didn't even look at my grade because i didn't want to vomit. i simply slid it into a manila envelope and won't look at it until the semester is over.

francis (one of the other graduate students) and i agreed to a new incentive structure today:

1. class attendance: if you miss class, you must pay the other person $50.
2. daily reading: you must do extra-curricular reading for one hour per day or pay $10.
3. final grades: you must pay $300 for each non-A final grade.
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
did you have an old incentive structure? it sounds motivating.

too bad about the econometrics (maybe).
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
did you just know you did really poorly? that sucks.

those are some good incentives. I don't think I have any friends who would be into enforcing them; and I might not be either :).
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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> did you have an old incentive structure?

we've been doing the class attendance incentives since the first week of class. we just added (2) and (3) today.

> did you just know you did really poorly?

well, i walked out of the exam utterly disgusted with myself.
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
you should poison him to get fifty of his dollars.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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one morning i thought he sabotaged my building's elevator
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
hahaha
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
i received my aa degree for business administration in the mail today, it was wrinkled :(
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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I fucked a chem test big time last week. :(
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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micro theory exam this morning on cramer's rule, envelope thm., and le chatelier's effects.

it went pretty well, i guess.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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got it back, i got a ~C.

considering dropping out
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Why would you?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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because my degree is shit if i don't have a 4.0 this semester.
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14 years ago
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nestor
oh no. sorry to hear that lr.
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Lr: You are way ahead of me man. I couldn't even fathom being in graduate school. Why don't you post the paper? Did the professor leave marks on WHY he/she gave you a C? I'd like to see this work. But if you refuse to post it I understand. I got an F in a psychology paper once and I immediately threw it away. I felt that if I ever went into politics, I'd have to destroy the evidence.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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hahah

it's an exam written in a blue book. he marked it to a fair extent, but not thoroughly.

he did talk to me though, and said that he would weight the exam down if i do better on the next two. in other words, if i don't get an A on the next exam, i am withdrawing.
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
and then what? :o

i wish you the utmost success on the next one.

like luck, but surer.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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haha thanks

> and then what? :o

dunno. maybe i'd try to become a bizzniz man.
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
So you want to be a monkey that wears a suit? You are thinking about going to business school?

.. NO!!!!!!!

(Futurama -> Mars University)
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
:o
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14 years ago
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my updates

finance exam 92
industrial relations exam 83
business ethics assignment 87
real ethics assignment B+
epistemology & metaphysics essay 74
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i am dropping micro and econometrics

so it'll just be macro and methodology this semester
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
:o
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
nestor
exam time!

last week - human resources and business ethics
yesterday - corporate finance
saturday - metaphysics and epistemology
next wed - macroeconomics II
next thurs - ethics (the real one)
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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i have less than three hours to prepare for a presentation and eat. :o
bluet's avatar
14 years ago
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bluet
one hour!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i just rocked my macro exam.
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
good, because i bombed mine :D
 
14 years ago
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Trent
Rocked advanced linux final. Only got two finals left then im done with school.
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
well, i got my marks back. 2 B's. there goes my unblemished transcript. oh well, i'm transferring and marks don't carry over

muah
andyp's avatar
14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
Im done with school.
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
got my grades today. three As and a B. the B was in the one class that I cared very little about and hated, so I'm happy!
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
nestor
nice asemi. what are you doing for the summer?
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
taking summer classes :). I'm taking two so I only have two in the fall to finish up. I'm working a little extra too.

how about you?
 
14 years ago
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Trent
Done for the semester. Graduation is tomorrow.
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
asemi> working full time

trent> congrats on grad!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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my grades:

econ 501, microeconomic theory: withdrawn
econ 502, macroeconomic theory: A
econ 562, econometrics ii: withdrawn
econ 569, research methodology: pass

the silliest and most worthless 4.0 ever.
andyp's avatar
14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
graduated.. bitches!

with my puny AAS
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
on your way to portland, stop in butte and get some good drunk actions shots.
 
14 years ago
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Mathew
Zombie Flesh Eaters
I graduated as well...

AAS - Networking Technology
BAS - Information Technology and Design
Minor - Professional and Technical Communication

Job: Implementation Consultant in Baton Rouge starting June 2nd.
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14 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
<3 good job guys
andyp's avatar
14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
i'm driving through butte chiken
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
school starts tomorrow.... damn
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
starts Wednesday for me :/.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
tuesday :-|
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Yea I already started ... boo!
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
school started two weeks ago
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
well it is orientation week

i'm a western student now!
http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/
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13 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Are you Canadian Nestor? I tought you were British?
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
I was working in London UK for the summer. Strangely enough I also live in London ON (Canada).
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Stats rocks man. This the last class I need for my AS. I still want that PH.D
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Today, one of my profs told us that we are halfway through the semester...

How the hell did that happen.
Chiken's avatar
13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
yeah i know, i was amazed when my teachers started reviewing for midterms this week
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
ops exam tomorrow

halloween is gonna be epic
Chiken's avatar
13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
its already been epic for me, i turned 21 today!
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
oh wow. happy birthday dude
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I hate Halloween.

I also hate my psychology class this semester.

my Latin American history one is good though.

shit I can't wait to be done! then I will have my bachelor's.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
Nice! Degrees are cool.

I'm going as the doctor in the Miracle of Birth (for a contest), then as pacman at night... haha
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
yay, exam today :D
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
finance exam in 2 hours
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
operations management exam in about 30 minutes.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Fuckin Failed a stats exam. It's Crunch time now baby.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
physics exam tomorrow :o

which went well :D
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i'm in a milk chug competition next week
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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gross
andyp's avatar
13 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
nobody wins at that game :/
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
no. but i'm going to win. i eat a lot of dairy normally and i'll prep with some lactase enzymes.

i can also put a lot in my stomach, and i'll fast the day of.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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don't fast.. keep your stomach stretched out! try chugging as much water as you can every hour.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
but then my stomach will be full!

i'll stretch my stomach over the next week
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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the stomach empties fluids very quickly, i think.
andyp's avatar
13 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
stretch out your esophagus, because its going to be overhauling puke.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i'm not quite sure of the volume either. i really hope it isn't 4L (bit more than a gallon... gulp)
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
We should change the name of this thread to milk haters united

:(

I love milk
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
time trial this week is only 1L
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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nestor> time trial this week is only 1L

hahah


Étrangère> I love milk

i dare you to chug a couple gallons of milk and not puke.
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13 years ago
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greene
cursed, but the demons i confronted with dispersed
i don't have to teach tomorrow or friday. i am a test admin. i am going to read the book "a heartbreaking work of staggering genius" also i am drunk at 3:26 AM
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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poplit.. bleh
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i chugged the milk in less than 10 seconds and didn't puke. win.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Good job!
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
hahaha that rules.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
i'll be out of high school next year. what to do‽
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
gross. Milk gives me gas. Not good gas either. The kind that comes out the back.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I'll be out of college next year, what to do? :-P
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
at least i know what i won't be doing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
That sounds crazy, bluet. Do it!
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13 years ago
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bluet
nah, it's all commercialized and stuff. besides, it's too late to start the planning now

anyway, i want to go to an even higher school. but which one? and what should i study?
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
Philosophy. Duh.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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go to a good european school of letters. and study philosophy.
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13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
two more weeks. two papers to do this Sunday.

any idea what you want to do with your life, bluet?
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13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
bluet should become a documentary filmmaker and interview Varg!
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13 years ago
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bluet
> go to a good european school of letters

what's that?

> any idea what you want to do with your life, bluet?

nope

nestor, lucas: why philosophy?

phi_: :D
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13 years ago
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lucas
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> nestor, lucas: why philosophy?

it's the only thing that matters in life.

> go to a good european school of letters

my understanding of the european education system after high school is that there are polytechnical colleges, universities that concentrate on sciences, and universities that concentrate on humanities or letters.

if you want to stay in norway, enroll in this .

otherwise, choose a university that is strong in general, but especially good with philosophy.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère: either move to san luis obispo or out of the country. subsequently find a job.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
hmm...
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
philosophy > *

i've sold my soul to finance
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
> either move to san luis obispo or out of the country.

...?
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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?
Chiken's avatar
13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
well im gonna be graduating in the spring, granted i dont fail any classes this fall or this comming spring.

I'm looking into graduate programs and I'm now trying to decide where to go and what to get my masters in.

schools im looking at right now:
University of Pittsburgh
Depaul University (was accepted here for their bachelors program)

Masters programs contemplating:
Information systems with specialization in Information Security
Health and Rehabilitation Science with concentration in Health Information Systems

More schools will probably get added but right now, those are the two masters programs I am seriously considering doing.
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13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Got a 91 on my stats test!
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
ntnu has some cool programs: http://www.ntnu.no/international/master
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
yeah but those are masters
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13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
that would be cool to go abroad and study,

and the information systems course work looks pretty interesting there at ntnu.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
nestor: exactly, it was for chiken
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
totally failed my psych final yesterday. I'll most likely still pass the course though.
andyp's avatar
13 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
nice job chiken :D
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
to be implemented: http://midnighttutor.com/how_to_get_good_grad … istry.html
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13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
...i couldn't finish my operations management exam. scheduling and inventory calculations slowed me up a lot :(
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
ops sucks
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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argh, i'm so tired--

i have an exam in 1.5 hours.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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too much econometrics to know!--f test, lm test, hausman test, chow test, wald test, lr test, b-p test, white test---

*vomit*
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13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
So U of H fucked up my admissions form. But hey it's cool, I'm partly to blame. I have a lot of free time on my hands. However, I have been struggling what to pursue. I feel like I'm getting too old for college sometimes and feel like I will never reach a bachelors. This is not a problem of motivation, I have what it takes to get these. I just feel down sometimes.

Anyways, enough of that. I am a little unsure about my career at this point. I can either move up in IT or pursue something that I am very interested in(math and Political Science). I'm just trying to get some feedback from TTF about something personal, since I trust a lot of you guys. What would you do if you were faced with this problem? What subjects do you guys like? I'm pretty much open to anything. I don't really care about the money at this point since the recession seems to be getting WORSE.

bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
study what interests you!
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Nothing but TTF interests me.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
then study ttf :)
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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i'm done with the semester in two weeks!

until then,
three problems sets,
two exams, and
one paper.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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i got a reasonable (86/100) grade on my econometrics presentation of drivel.

i just finished two problem sets.

remaining are
two exams,
one problem set, and
one paper.

i'm picking up my pace to run
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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micro final at 9am!

it's on uncertainty and imperfect information (with comparative statics of equilibria tossed in for fun).

i'm studying in the bath, taking ambien, waking up early, studying more, then buss'ing it.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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part of an email i just sent to a classmate:

there is a line that says this:

(dH/dp)(dp*/da) + (dH(p*)/da) == (dC/da) == 0

first, i have no idea where this really comes from, but this cannot be true!

    proof:

    (dH/dp)(dp*/da) + (dH(p*)/da) == 0

    (dH(p*)/da) + (dH(p*)/da) == 0                      (unchain)

    1 + 1 == 0

bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
It can be true if all the variables are zero.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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yeah, i was just thinking that on the couch. but they can't be zero because of how he uses them.

anyway, the exam is over, and it was depressing. i might have done well, though.
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13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I just found out I'm exempt from one of my finals :D
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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remaining are
an econometric paper (5/1), and
an econometric exam (5/5).

/o/
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13 years ago
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my econometrics paper is becoming A BEAST OF BURDEN (phrase copyright dp).


ugh---
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13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
graduating may 9th
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13 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
i've been enjoying statistics this semester. :D

that said, i have an elementary view of the playground that is this statistical data:
https://www.thinktankforums.com/revision.php? … ;type=post

horray!
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13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I'm pretty sure the rolling stones get that copyright...

I had that song dedicated to me in high school. He said it was for the "pretty pretty girl" line, not the "am I hard enough? am I rough enough?" lines, but it was still a little awkward to hear over the radio. :-\
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i don't think the rolling stones coined it. although evidently dp didn't either, dp used it in a way in which it was previously unused. to be sure, it's not the case that i consider my econometrics paper to be an animal that carries loads for me. rather, it's a beast in terms of familiar nomenclature regarding the size of the thing, and the beast is certainly my burden. or, using the phrase in the traditional sense, for my econometrics paper, i am acting as its beast of burden.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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my paper is turning out pretty decent. i hope have time to run it through latex!
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
gogogo!
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13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
two classes done. 98% on my bio and man final, which gives me an A then got a 95% on my abnormal psych final which gave me a final grade of 89.93%. I think I'm actually gonna go in and plead to the professor to give me the A.
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13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
novell final went of without a hitch except for my novell cluster taking a shit right before the presentation. **note to self, do not power down a machine with a novell clust, it fucks shit up**

last final in an hour. gotta do some last minute cramming.
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13 years ago
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bluet
Got great grades in IT, maths and physics. \o/
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13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
A-, A, A-, B+ :(
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13 years ago
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bluet
I've been offered a bedsit near NTNU! :D
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nestor
i did ok, about the same as first semester. good marks in the stuff that i care about (valuation, corp fin, accounting, management science, etc.)
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13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
What's a bedsit?

Good job boys
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13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i'm guessing it's what you in america call 'dorms' and canada calls 'res'

maybe i'm wrong though.
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13 years ago
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bluet
nestor is probably right.
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13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
got accepted to depaul, still waiting to hear something from pitt (hope i hear soon because depaul starts in september and i applied for spring admission to pitt).

soooooo i guess if i don't hear from pitt by july im gonna go to depaul. woooo bears games!
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13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
way to go, chiken.

I need to get on top of this grad school shit. taking the GRE next Monday.
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13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
On the phone with the uni now. Trying to get a status update on my admission.
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13 years ago
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bluet
I decided I won't study at NTNU after all. Instead I'll be studying physics at the University of Oslo.
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cool. what made you change your mind?
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13 years ago
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bluet
I realized I only wanted to study computer science because I thought it would be easy for me. Physics, however, is fascinating. UiO also has some deal with CERN, and it'd be cool to work there some time. :)
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13 years ago
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that's good. cs is really useful in physics, anyway. i know a physicist who isn't good at cs, and it sets her back quite a bit. your cs skills will help you move ahead quickly. :)
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13 years ago
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bluet
One of the courses the first semester is actually "Programming for physicists" or something like that. Python is used throughout, I think. Yes, it's basic python with a focus on math and examples from the sciences. Looks like there's some Java too.

UiO also has a student exchange program with University of Minnesota Twin cities! :D
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13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
definitely keep us updated on your physics education, bluet. I am somewhat of a popular physics enthusiast.
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13 years ago
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Not really school related, but I plan to take my CCNA test in less than 2 months!
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13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
I got accepted to the University of Houston. Wow. Big leagues now.
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> I got accepted to the University of Houston.

\o/
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13 years ago
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so awesome, gatz.

I took my GREs on monday. I exceeded my expectations, so I will not have to take them again! so pumped to have those out of the way.
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13 years ago
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i will probably do the GREs and/or GMATs next year.
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13 years ago
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Good job gatz and asemi!
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13 years ago
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I'm pretty much done with videregående (similar to high school) now.
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13 years ago
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aww, you're so young :P
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13 years ago
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high school in europe often goes until age 19 or 20.
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13 years ago
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Yeah, I just turned 19, remember? :)
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13 years ago
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nope, sorry.
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13 years ago
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welp, got my acceptance to pitt in the mail today. looks like i'll be movin to pittsburgh in december (classes start jan 6)
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13 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
Awesome Chiken! :D
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13 years ago
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I got accepted at the University of Oslo!
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13 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
MAY YOU FIND ETERNITY IN THE HALLS OF VALHALLA!
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13 years ago
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good job, bluet!
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13 years ago
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well bluet - do you know where you're going? i seem to recall you got into another program as well
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13 years ago
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i think he changed his mind to the uni of oslo.

> I decided I won't study at NTNU after all. Instead I'll be studying physics at the University of Oslo.
 
13 years ago
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keep smiling !
Congrats guys! Physics sounds good. I loved it during my school days.
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13 years ago
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I signed up for part of the Massachusetts teaching licensure tests. I'm taking them in about a month.
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13 years ago
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handing in my M.S.'s thesis tomorrow and graduating then starting Ph.D. in Michigan State University in a month in agriculture, food, and resource economics department and degree title. very scary.
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13 years ago
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we should just make a 'graduate school' mega thread. i might be there soon too
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13 years ago
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done with the master's thesis! defended, submitted, and done.
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13 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Neat. Everyone in this thread is so much more academically ambitious than I. It's weird.
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13 years ago
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congrats, thats about the only thing im dreading about getting my masters, the damn thesis.
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13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
The only thing you're dreading about getting your masters? But that is the thing.. :-\

Oh and phi_, don't worry, you're not the only one! (Though I'll likely get my masters as well if I can't find sufficient photo income in the next year or two)
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13 years ago
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well....technically i could not do a thesis and take extra classes in place of it.

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13 years ago
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> (Though I'll likely get my masters as well if I can't find sufficient photo income in the next year or two)

I dropped out before even getting a BA. :-/

But I think I may go back in the spring. Gonna apply to a bunch of places with decent film/criticism programs.

Top 3 (in no order, just the ones I'm applying to it would be nice to get in to):
* Boston U [Hi, asemi!]
* UT, Austin [Was accepted a few years back, figured I'd try again.]
* USC [Fuck, why not? Got a few good friends out there anyway.]
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> But that is the thing

indeed, many master's programs do not require a thesis.

> Though I'll likely get my masters as well

really? in what? i thought you hate school completely.
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13 years ago
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I like school. I would get my master's in photography, so I could teach. But in order to teach college courses, I would likely need to get a Ph.D. as well. Competition is getting extremely stiff.
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13 years ago
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
I really suck at school and can't see ever going back at this point in my life
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> I like school.

oh. you didn't a year ago.

> I would get my master's in photography

M.A. or M.F.A.?
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13 years ago
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MFA

> you didn't a year ago.

Yeah I did. I just don't like that it has confined me to one geographic location.
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well, i remember you telling me that you'd like to drop out and that you hate most of the course content, with the exception of some of the content of your "professional practices" course.
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13 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Heh I got a job at a major university so I could go back... but I hate this job.
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> you hate most of the course content

For one or two courses that was definitely true. I hate being told what to photograph!
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> Chiken: well....technically i could not do a thesis and take extra classes in place of it.

from talking with various professors in a number of disciplines, I have heard that programs that don't require a thesis are usually of a greatly inferior quality.
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that may be so for many degrees but from what I have seen for IT master's that I was interested in, the majority did not require you to do a thesis. it was an option and strongly suggested that you do that, but if for some reason you did not want to do the thesis then you were required to take like an extra 6 classes.

I mean, it's not like I'm going to MIT or anything, plus finding schools that actually offered what I wanted to do.
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yeah, in academia it's probably true, but not so much with professional-type programs.
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13 years ago
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exactly. mbas don't write theses (very often)
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$900 bill to finish my thesis a semester late. :(
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13 years ago
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> $900 bill to finish my thesis a semester late.

that's like fifteen flip clocks! D:
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13 years ago
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Going tomorrow (didn't today, long story) to register for classes. Gonna shoot for full time, and work part time @ library. I miss my old job. :(

So far ....

PHYS 1401 - Gen. Physics I (went over my records, apparently I'm 4 hours short on science ...)
ENGL 2328 - American Lit. - Civil War to Present

Possibly another English class, or an RTV class. Will finalize tomorrow.

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13 years ago
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way to go phi_.
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13 years ago
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Thanks, man. I really hate to go back to school at this point in time. It feels an awful lot like I'm giving up on everything and resorting to plan B, y'know? Plus, my family has been hounding me forever to go back to school and I don't want to allow them to even think it's because of their hounding me, so I'm doing all this basically in secret. I guess I'll tell 'em once I start classes or something.
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13 years ago
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I can relate to the hounding business.
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13 years ago
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Fuck ... had to call my mom about it. She hid all my tax forms for 2008 ... in her car. (wtf?)

So, she was all excited about me going back to school ... then asked me what I wanted to major in. As if she was expecting some other answer, she was disappointed/upset that I, once again, said film/theory.

*sigh* Can't win 'em all, can I?
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13 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Yeah my mom's been trying to get into my tax forms every time she visits... I dunno what that's about. She has like some perverse fear the IRS is going to rape me in my sleep or something.
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Not sure if this fits here, but it's somewhat-related and funny.

Apparently I got a 'B' in the class "Adv Historical Anal" according to my transcript.
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13 years ago
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loling
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13 years ago
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It's good to finish something you've already started, phi_. *thumbs up*
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13 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
40 minutes later, and I'm enrolled in school again! Only 7 hours, though. Transferring to a proper uni after this semester so I'm just taking what would be easier here at CC. Same classes I mentioned before.
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13 years ago
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The first week of parties and stuff for new students is now over. Lectures start on monday, I think. We've already had classes in Linux and Python for beginners.
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13 years ago
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Étrangère
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um...address?
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13 years ago
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Haven't found a place to live yet. :\
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13 years ago
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this fall, i'm applying to doctoral economics programs (for fall 2010 entry). i'm optimistic because i finished my m.s. coursework with a 3.78 and i plan on having an article submitted to a decent journal by the time i apply. my gre scores are good, but i might try to perfect them.

so far, i'm definitely applying to these universities:
1. stanford university
2. uc - berkeley
3. university of rochester
4. caltech
5. columbia university
6. nyu
7. univerity of washington
8. university of colorado
9. uc - santa barbara

i'm considering applying to these universities:
mit
princeton university
university of chicago
harvard university
university of minnesota
northwestern university
yale university
uc - san diego
university of wisconsin - madison
university of michigan
uc - los angeles
brown university
cornell university
duke university
university of north carolina - chapel hill
michigan state university
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13 years ago
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boston! (well, cambridge)
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13 years ago
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which? mit? harvard?

<3 mit architecture
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13 years ago
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haha, this really makes me want to go to mit
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13 years ago
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mit seems like a way cooler place. but I work closer to harvard :).
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yeah, i think so too. but i seriously doubt that i can get into either place.
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i might apply to chicago booth and stanford gsb, too.
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13 years ago
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it would be pretty intense if i ended up in the same city as lr when i apply to phd school (2012-2013)
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maybe i'll apply to the university of toronto, too. :D
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13 years ago
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heh. it's decent for econ, as is ubc.

the top schools for finance are similar, but obviously more dependent on business schol resources.
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12 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
ENGL 2327 - American Lit., Colonial - Civil War - M/W/F 1015 - 1110

A survey of major American authors from the colonial period to the Civil War. Figures covered include Edwards, Franklin, Irving, Cooper, Poe, Hawthorne, Melville, Emerson, Thoreau, and Whitman.





PHYS 1410 - Elementary Physics I - T/Th 1800 - 2050

Conceptual level survey of topics in physics intended for liberal arts and other non-science majors. This course offers the opportunities for the students to explore the basic principles in motion, matter, heat, sound, electricity, light, and modern phsyics. It includes an appropriate laboratory program.

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12 years ago
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blargh.. i'm still writing the literature review for my thesis. i keep making it harder on myself by pulling on more references. i'm up to sixty references. [vomit]
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12 years ago
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I wish they have elementary physics courses that taught exciting topics like relativity and quantum physics instead of boring stuff like motion.
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12 years ago
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here's a pdf of my school choices:

http://jlr.s3.amazonaws.com/rankings.pdf

this time around, i'm putting a lot of weight on where i would be living. my top two choices for location are new york city and california's bay area. chicago, seattle, boulder, and santa barbara would all be fine, too.
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12 years ago
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what do the colours mean?
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green: will definitely apply
yellow: might apply (still considering)
gray: will not apply

red: first due-date of the green schools
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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i just updated it with new US News rankings!
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12 years ago
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nestor
i'm glad you're applying to uroch!
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12 years ago
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i hear that place is crazy. the main reason i'm applying there is that their app is free.
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12 years ago
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bsdlite: what do you think? are you applying to programs this fall?
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12 years ago
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i don't quite have a list compiled yet. i'm primarily considering law school as an option (not to mention as a means swapping a career in academia for eternal damnation), but still plan on dropping some applications to ph.d. programs for good measure (in case this is just a "phase"). will keep you updated
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law?

what about academic freedom? as a professor, you simply teach a couple classes then write on whatever you want.

lawyers have to take clients or have employers. (foghorn)

..unless you want to eventually teach law at a law school!
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12 years ago
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lawyers are awful

- from an investment banker
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i have ten pages of my thesis written thus far! i plan on finishing up section two tonight, then i'm on to section three (theory, my positive account) tomorrow!
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12 years ago
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:D

Are you going to keep it under 20?
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12 years ago
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the literature review? yes. the thesis? certainly not.
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12 years ago
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where is gatz in this thread?
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so i'm formally auditing intermediate french (frch 201) and informally auditing poetry (engl 428).

i'm about to turn in my application for graduation in december 2009!

$968.70 later.. /o/


breakdown
tuition and fees for 3cr., graduate, in-state: $816.70
registration fee: $30
advanced degree application fee: $20
commencement fee: $30
resnet (internet access): $72
bluet's avatar
12 years ago
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You have to pay for tuition? That's weird.
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12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Yeah ... and it's expensive.
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yeah, but we have less taxation here as a result.
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12 years ago
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phi_
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Not by much, IIRC. Isn't the Norwegian income tax rate something like 30%? Maybe more? Our income tax is about 25% ...
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they have really high municipal taxes, too, though.
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12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Very true.
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12 years ago
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bluet
I wouldn't know. My only income is a student loan from the government, so I don't pay any taxes. Well, except the 25 % VAT, I guess.
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12 years ago
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nestor
my tuition is really bad for canada. c$20,000 p.a. that's probably the highest undergraduate fee in the country.
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12 years ago
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bluet
I contacted the student loan organization, and now I only have to pay 60 % of the loan since I'm not living with my parents. If I don't pass the exams, though, I have to pay all of it. But no matter if I pass or not, there's no interest until I finish.
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12 years ago
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thesis due in 47 days for fall graduation

D:
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12 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
I still gotta get my graduate loans, finally filled out the fafsa though.
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I'm extremely behind in my thesis, too.

You can do it, luke!
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i still don't know what a hypothesis has to do with an art project.

i'm even conceding in the beginning of my paper that economic theory is more art than science.
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
You're using one common definition, my department and I are using another.
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12 years ago
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implicit function theorem saves the day! (who would have thought?)
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12 years ago
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I am doing extremely shitty. Oh well.
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12 years ago
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:/ sorry, bro
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12 years ago
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finally gettin the hang of this calculus stuff. kinda wish i woulda taken this right after college algebra and pre calc, cause it's pretty easy stuff just i'm finding out i've already forgotten a lot of the basics.
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I'm actually working on senior.
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12 years ago
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thesis due in five weeks? D:
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the cost of getting a Econ PhD at Michigan State in addition to a Agricultural, Food, and Resource Economics PhD is about $2000 extra and about 200 hours of additional work. worth it?
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so maybe like $6000 total? what's your wtp for 200 hours?

i'd probably pay up to an extra $8000 for the econ phd
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Got past my mid-term crit with my professors. They didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, though. :(
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12 years ago
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what did they say?
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
"I like this one, this one, this one, this one..."
"You have a good start, but keep working! It's crunch time."
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crunch time!
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12 years ago
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bluet
I got 94 % on my calc midterm. :\
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Drunk by Myself
New midterm grade for Programming: 79%

Hey that counts right?
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12 years ago
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the law is no protection
up from way less, right? :) nice!

I need to decide kind of very soon whether or not I want to go to school summer 2010. aghhhh.
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12 years ago
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nestor
disgustingly busy. WHY
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nov. 09 - thesis draft
nov. 20 - thesis defense
nov. 30 - thesis due for the library

it's getting serious
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
What you my friend need... is a montage.
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12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFCHuEegsk
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
I had a freakin' KILLER Assembly test today. I think I may have actually survived it.
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12 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
just registered for winter session.
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12 years ago
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2/3 of my way through first semester of econ PhD and I am not destroyed...yet.

in micro surprisingly i have learned little new stuff. 2 semesters of master's level micro at Montana State (6 credits) ~ 1 PhD semester Micro at Michigan State (5 credits). by this, I mean that micro PhD is easy after micro at the master's level at Montana State. this does not seem to be the case for Michigan State students who got their master's in Ag-Econ here. i would be interested in seeing how an "average" student at Montana State did here.

also I would be interested in seeing how relatively difficult Michigan State is to the top: Chicago, Berkley, Stanford, Harvard... also, there is a student here who did a master's a Cornell and was a top student there. top student but approximately the same confidence and understanding as me.

thesis: that a B.A. at a top school ~ M.A. at Montana State is unclear. perhaps for top students in B.A. who take master's and PhD level classes this is the case but in general i am unconvinced.

but it is hard to say how important the difficulty of a educational curriculum is to predicting the future success of students at a PhD level. if student native abilities is the only important factor in expected future success then difficult master's or B.A.s is only useful in potentially weeding out weak students.
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12 years ago
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i.e., signaling
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btw, Wooldridge says he is teaching the econometrics class at MIT level or higher. I got an A on the first exam :)
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12 years ago
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complete draft of my thesis is due tonight

D:
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
sql error caused my big long update to get deleted! nooooooooooooooooo
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12 years ago
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ttf's sql error? i was upgrading the server. :( sorry, bro.

i still haven't finished my dumb draft
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12 years ago
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the printer i use is located in another office that houses six other students. i've been printing all night. james brown has been in there asleep on the floor for the last five hours or so. i hope i haven't been messing up his sleep. :o
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12 years ago
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fuck this. i'm going to bed and turning it in late.
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12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
so i started to map out my plan of study and man, it looks like I'll be getting my masters in closer to 4 years than 2. The security specialization has so many prereqs isn't not even funny.
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12 years ago
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thought i should also note this, from what I can gather, the only class times they schedule for graduate classes is either 12-2:50PM and 6-8:50PM with a spattering of classes at 3,4 and 5.

my days of 8AM classes appear to be over!
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12 years ago
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lucas, you can print to my office if you want; there's a printer in here for some reason. however, it's on the first floor.
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i used to have my own printer, but then someone stole it. >:0
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12 years ago
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Aced my precal quiz and got a 110 on a programming assignment. Eazy-ness. :)

Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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found out tech forgot to put my graduation date on my transcript, so i was forced to send yet another one.
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12 years ago
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> Eazy-ness. :)

eazy duz it!
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12 years ago
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well registered for classes. spring term is gonna be light, didnt want to over load myself, plus my adviser is kind of out of it so i just want to get a few required classes before i start worrying about my specialization.

Information Policy (lecture) - Tu 12:00-2:50
Computer Networking Laboratory (lecture) - We 6:00-8:50
Telecommunications Seminar (lecture) - Fri 12:00-2:50
Web Technologies and Standards (lecture) - Tu 3:00-5:50

I'm actually thinking it should be a pretty easy semester, but you never know.
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12 years ago
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the first three econ programs that i'm applying to are:

u cal -- los angeles, due dec. 1
u cal -- santa barbara, due dec. 1
u cal -- berkeley, due dec. 8
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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nice don't just apply to U.C.s though. there might be funding issues.
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12 years ago
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i'm not. i'll be submitting at least twenty apps.
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
Are you saying you would be happy to attend each and every one of the twenty schools you're applying to? Because if not, you will be wasting a lot of money.

Why not submit to your top 5 or top 10 at the most? You can't really be that nervous about not getting accepted to any of them, considering your NYU wait-listing a few years ago...
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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> Are you saying you would be happy to attend each and every one of the twenty schools you're applying to?

indeed.

> You can't really be that nervous about not getting accepted to any of them, considering your NYU wait-listing a few years ago.

i can and am. i got waitlisted at a #15 school and rejected at a #40. enough said
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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ten hours to finish my draft in time for a friday defense. D:
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12 years ago
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all math is perfectly formatted, the bibliography is perfect as well.

just gotta clean up the writing! /o/
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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i'm defending on friday. :o
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Chiken
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good luck!
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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at least twenty apps - good idea. MC (marginal cost) of submission <$100. typical financial aid package from an econ program >$150k not to mention future expected earnings and opportunities. having at least two good options to choose from will give you negotiation power.
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12 years ago
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nestor
i'll have to remember to look in this thread when i am applying to grad schools in a few years.
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12 years ago
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final grades for fall 2009
engl 428: creative writing: poetry -- A
frch 201: intermediate french -- W

another 4.0! i'm awesome at school
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12 years ago
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thinks darkness is his ally
larz in charge
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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hahah :)
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
probability exam on wednesday. i don't do the homework regularly so i've bombed all the quizzes, but when i applied myself on the midterm i got a 90. i just need to find the motivation to study - all my friends are done their exams, and it's the time of year that i'd much rather sit around and read all day long..
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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I like studying...mostly. it involves sitting around all day reading.
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12 years ago
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Wrote my first Java app(Graphical Too). I'm pretty sure I banked a 110 on that mofo. Fuck Java.

Also, am grinding out quizzes so I can raise my Math grade by 2 points. This is ... beyond torture. I basically want A's on all my quizzes. This is gonna be a long night.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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i agree, fuck java. my final in my java class was to draw a picture with a car and make the car move across the screen.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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metrics and macro finals yesterday. metrics seemed too easy. macro was a mess. i have decided that i am no longer a neo-con (if ever I was). I never imagined modern macro economic theory was a byproduct of such a convoluted box of hocus pocus.

the neo-classical growth model is a mess. basically the set up is fairly intuitive. however, the only way that it gives meaningful results is if you are extremely selective about the initial conditions. in particular, you have to be very cautious about how you select initial capital levels. if the initial levels are too high, after a few periods, the level of capital investment soars to 100%. if they are too low, the estimated level of capital investments drops to 0% or negative. so, to 'solve' the model you are finding the initial conditions that might lead to a reasonable estimate for growth. is this too strange for anybody else? i mean, at a minimum, a model should be able to handle a range of potential initial capital stock. it is not like china invests billions of dollars in direct foreign investment and everybody here freaks out because we suddenly believe that the economy is going to collapse because we are no longer at the optimal starting level.

...perhaps, i am missing something. i hope they don't give out grades less than B. that final was shitty.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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weird. i don't know enough about macro to comment
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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3.0 macro :P
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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oh yeah, michigan st. u. doesn't do letter grades

not a bad macro grade for you :p
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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yeah, :) i got a 3.6 at montana state, but that was a relative scale. we were competing against masters students.

check it out: montana state represents in Ag-Econ
2nd ranked M.S.
4th ranked M.S.

lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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sweet! thanks for the links.

i want to see it ranked against all terminal econ master's degrees.
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12 years ago
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I sucked this year.

GPA 2.5 but it's ok. First semester, full time work, fuck it. I'll do better next semester. I managed to get an A in Programming.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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so here is the runings for Micro/Mathematical Methods (5 credits):

1st exam 120 points total
mean 111
upper extreme 4 or 5 people got 120
lower extreme < 50
me 105

2nd exam 120 points total
mean 102
upper extreme 4 or 5 people got 120
lower extreme < 50
me 97

going into the final there was a 5-10 point gap between me and the 3.7 tear.
final exam 160 points total
mean 117
upper extreme 4 people got 160
lower extreme, unknown
me 149

YES! now the only question is if my performance on the final is enough to elevate me above 3.7!

oh and 2.5 :( doesn't matter much first semester in but no point cutting off options if you don't need to. 2.5 doesn't get you into graduate school or give you a job.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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3.7? i thought mich. st. did 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, ...
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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you might be right. i guess it would be a 3.5 or 4.0 then. i was mentally translating to letter grades when he was talking. i didn't realize that we didn't get letter grades until i saw the macro grade. that is kind of a pain in the ... i mean, there is only three options and basically 3.0 is a lower bound. so a 3.5 means you scored above average. stupid grading scale.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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damnit! just give me my grade already!
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12 years ago
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my grades finally posted. i now have a 3.81 gpa.

3.71 for my b.a.
3.81 for my m.s.

there's a nice ring to it, anyway.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I see they worked their shit out and gave you the correct grade. Woo!
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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nice :)
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12 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
1. i haven't received my grades yet: networking, professional ethics, philosophy of religion, writing for influence.
2. taking winter intersession quantitative business analysis
3. registered for spring: aesthetics, advanced networking, project management practicum, corporate finance, modern philosophers.
4. california school systems are severely screwy because of the financial situation.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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are their toilets coin-op now?
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12 years ago
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the protesters are so stupid. do they think the school determines how much state funding it receives? the school obviously has to price tuition to cover the difference between funding and costs.

all i saw were campus protests. where there any at the state legislature buildings? isn't that where they should be?
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12 years ago
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"do they think the school determines how much state funding it receives?" - agreed. we have the same kind of stupid shit going on around here (mi). something like 20 different entire departments are being dissolved due to funding cuts and there are protesters in front of the administrative building howling because their tuition is going up. i hope these protesters also protested the 226 million dollar stadium renovation approved in June, 2007.
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12 years ago
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to be fair, the athletics department is probably run like a profit-maximizing firm. they (hopefully) determined that the stadium renovation would pay off in ticket sales and such.
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12 years ago
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:P yeah, if you look at the renovations it is mostly like 82 new 'luxury booths' and 3,200 'club seats'. i would guess these bring in some fat cash. especially since many games seem to bring a crowd of more than 100,000.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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there were some protests, but it was probably because students wanted more seats for themselves as opposed to more seats for wealthy fans.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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oh, i was looking at the wrong school. that was the UM numbers not MSU. MSU houses only 80k and only spent 64 million dollars on renovations.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
So I guess since my grades are in, I'm officially done with my undergraduate degree. I graduate with honors. This is somewhat shitty because I would have had highest honors had my transfer gpa from MSU-Billings been accepted by MSU-Bozeman. :(
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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oh well, congrats! at least you're done :)
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12 years ago
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> This is somewhat shitty because I would have had highest honors had my transfer gpa from MSU-Billings been accepted by MSU-Bozeman.

highest honors at msu-b isn't the same as highest honors at msu.
highest honors at msu isn't the same as highest honors at mit.

gpas are not standardized, so allowing their transfer would make them meaningless. if it were possible to scale the gpa to each school's level of difficulty, then the scaled gpas could be meaningfully averaged.

but congratulations! have fun figuring out life! graduation is a fantastic moment of forlornness
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12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
ugh, I was really hoping you wouldn't beat a dead horse.

And thanks! So far I'm not feeling forlorn so much as anxious about getting all my affairs in order.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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sorry.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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it's ok, larz
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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micro/methods 4.0!
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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Fsmart
current GPA 3.625, now just metrics to wait for.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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if you get micro 4, metrics 4, and macro 3, that's a sweet success.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Good job, Francis
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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EC 811A 2 001 Math Applcns in PhDs 4.0
EC 812A 3 001 Microeconomics I 4.0
EC 813A 3 001 Macroeconomics I 3.0
EC 820A 3 001 Econometrics IA 4.0
Cum 3.72

but next semester won't be so easy.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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that's a damn good semester.

good job!
nny's avatar
12 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
too bad the financial sector is in ruins and pouring gasoline on the ashes...
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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thanks :) next semester i am required to take the same course load but 811B is now jointly taught with 813B so effectively, it is 5 credits of macro. but, i know what to expect and i am pretty sure i know how to get a good grade.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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nny: luckily a ph.d in econ is useful to more than just the financial sector
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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financial sector ~ Macro
everything else ~ Micro/Econometrics
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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even finance is more finance than macro

i don't think macro is really useful to anyone
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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the law is no protection
I just emailed former professors asking about letters of recommendation. I am going to apply for the Boston Teacher Residency this year.
Fsmart's avatar
12 years ago
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nice. do you want to teach in BPS?
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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the law is no protection
yep! I was planning on that anyway, so the fact that BTR pays off your loans if you do is a nice benefit.
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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got my marks today. 88.5% average! in our conversion to american gpa system, i get about a 3.92. last year i had a 3.60 (~82% average).

yay
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
shit yeah. nice job, nestor!
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
gotta say only two weeks in and im already so drained from all the reading, and papers haven't even started yet! not to worried about any of my classes except my web standards class.

we'll be doing a lot in XML, and our first assignment was to make a personal webpage using xhtml (no problem for me), but after that were doing XML schemas, smart documents, and making blogs with ATOM. not gonna lie, but XML is kinda scarin me.
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12 years ago
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nestor - nice
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12 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
sounds fun chiken how are you enjoying the new experience?
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
so far the people are pretty cool. gone drinking with the germans a few times and they've got some interesting tales. living in the city is pretty cool too, it's just i've been so loaded down with reading that i haven't been able to go out and enjoy it. i mean, i had something like 500 pages to read, 250 on one class.

hopefully once i can get into the flow and adjust to this different style of learning, ill enjoy it more but right now it feels so overwhelming. slowly adjusting though.
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12 years ago
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i didn't get my thesis filed by january 13th. as a result, i have to add two credits for $511.40 to extend my deadline to april 12th.

$511.40 for three months: killer deal.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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indeed
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I think I might get a BS in math.
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12 years ago
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I highly suggest you do a minor and see if its your cup of tea. Trust me. I will have a minor in math and I suck at math .... doesn't mean I don't want it.
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12 years ago
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i tried to get a B.S. in mathematics. it almost killed me. however, that's because one of my professors was teaching a junior-level real analysis class at graduate-level difficulty. i couldn't handle it any longer, especially while taking 26 credit-hours that semester.

calculus I to IV (differential, integral, multivariate, differential equations) and linear algebra are fine (and often fun). real analysis, complex analysis, applied mathematics, dynamical systems, and abstract algebra are a different story, however, depending on the rigor of the course. they require a thorough understanding of the concepts--to the point where you can creatively express yourself using high-level mathematics.

i love it, but it's killer shit.
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12 years ago
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the law is no protection
if I can enroll this summer, I'm definitely doing it. I'm gonna call umass boston tomorrow, because it might be past the deadline.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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:D
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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the law is no protection
boston teach residency rejected me.

umass boston accepted me back for another bs.

and boston college accepted me to the donovan urban scholars program! this was my first choice and it will probably be what I do. I will study elementary education. classes start in June I think. goodbye, job!
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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cool. sounds great!
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
finally got the first paper i wrote in graduate school back (turned it in back in January), got an A on it!

the only concern was my lack of footnote use.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
things just keep getting better!

88 on my Networking Lab midterm! only one person got higher, and they only got a 90.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
o/
nny's avatar
12 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
You should definitely network with that person.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
i dont know who it was. a pretty safe guess is the chinese guy
nny's avatar
12 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
That's RACIST! =P

My roomate from college days is chinese. Our conversations are usually broken up by our creative attempts to insult each others nationalities... makes for some hilarious drinking conversations.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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this is why i hate group shit. in my networking lab, we work in teams of 2 and whoever you partner with in the beginning is your partner for the term. well i got stuck with this dumb blonde bitch who every day likes to tell me about how she's a network admin, yet fumbles her way through there labs and can't properly set up a basic OSPF config.

anyways, we have to do lab write ups, and each week we have to alternate who writes it up and turns it in. i just checked the grades, and the 3 i've done have all gotten A's. 92,96,96. the ones she turned in? 86,82,70. i swear, if i somehow get a c- or lower in the class i know exactly who brought me down. that shouldn't happen though. solid B's or A's on all quizes and good midterm grade. but still, i want to know what shes doing to these AFTER i check them for her.

/end rant
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
Tell her to suck your dick man. Seriously.
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12 years ago
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Martin
No. Doing her in the ass is much better IMHO.
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
Need I remind you she is a network admin? ;)
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12 years ago
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*deletes three posts*
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12 years ago
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Martin
> Need I remind you she is a network admin? ;)

Your point?

> *deletes three posts*

Is this a subtle hint of sorts?
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12 years ago
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thinks darkness is his ally
> Tell her to suck your dick man. Seriously.
> No. Doing her in the ass is much better IMHO.

i wonder why there are so few girls on ttf
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12 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Girls don't like butt sex. Most girls anyways.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
> i wonder why there are so few girls on ttf
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
12 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
in Étrangère's case, it's about quality, not quantity.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
hey thanks!
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
but you should know, I'm a bitch in person :(
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
last day of undergrad, over.
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
congrats!
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
> last day of undergrad, over.

Your term is finished already? hey congratulations!
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
I fucked up. case closed.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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I am not a robot...
whatdya mean, gatz?
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12 years ago
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the law is no protection
shit is happening. I start school June 30th. two courses for the summer. and I just got notification of all my financial aid money for fall and spring (not for summer though, which is weird and I'm waiting for an email or call from the financial aid office to figure out why this is). and I just got a job that pays a stipend for 20 hours/week during the summer and 15/week during the academic year.

I'm going to give my notice at my current job tomorrow and be out of here probably May 18th. then I'm hopefully going to take a trip to England and perhaps elsewhere for a week or so.
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12 years ago
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the law is no protection
oh, and new job starts June 1st. I'm psyched.
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
That is awesome, asemi!
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Where are you going in England? (And why England?)
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
nestor
what program in school?
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
this here: http://www.bc.edu/schools/lsoe/academics/urban/donovan.html

for elementary ed. I'm getting an m.ed.

england because I feel particularly fond of it after reading everything george orwell wrote. and because I've never been to europe.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
What are you thinking would be your ideal grade to teach?
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
third or fourth.
nny's avatar
12 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
fourth is where it's at
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
grades for two of my classes are posted, and thankfully they are the two classes i was worried about:

web technologies & standards: A
networking laboratory: A
telecommunications seminar: ? (should be an A)
information policy: ? (should also be an A, prof told me I was getting an A)

also, I fucking kicked the shit out of the lab final, 100% on both the written and the experimental. I would have probably punched myself if i didn't get an A, I studied for at least 3 hours every day for two weeks for that thing.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
nice job, chiken
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I received a letter from my uni informing me that I am on academic probation and may end up on academic suspension...


wtf?
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
Keyword May. You still have a semester to get into compliance. :)
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
But my gpa is nearly 4.0 ...
Chiken's avatar
12 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
to attend this school you must maintain a gpa of 4.5
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
hahah
 
12 years ago
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tc
Larz congrats on your masters
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12 years ago
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thanks!
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12 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
So now that you are a master can you open your own kung fu school and challenge other masters?
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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naturally.
Étrangère's avatar
12 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
ask bsdlite if he wants to fight
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11 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Can't register yet, but the course listing is open. Here's (hopefully) my schedule for next semester:

M/W/F
0900-1000 : COMM 2328 - Broadcast & Film Writing
1100-1200 : LATN 1302 - Elementary Latin II

T/Th
1000-1130 : COMM 2300 - Communication Research Methods
1130-0100 : COMM 2320 - Fundamentals of Media Production
0230-0400 : COMM 1301 - Media & Society

There, the only two freshmen-level courses I was missing will be out of the way. It's looking like I'll be getting out this semester with a 4.0, and if I can keep it up next semester I'm going to apply for the Honors College Creative Works Minor. Woo!
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11 years ago
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thinks darkness is his ally
> ask bsdlite if he wants to fight

this is cool and somehow i didn't see it until just now
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11 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
Telecom 2120 : Network Performance - A
Telecom 2810 : Intro to Security - A
Telecom 2310 - Computer Networks - A

up next in the spring:
Security Management
Network Security
Network Design
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11 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Was finally able to register today. Here's my schedule:

SP 2011 COMM 1301 Media and Society
SP 2011 COMM 2300 Communication Research Methods
SP 2011 ENGL 2311 American Literary Cultures
SP 2011 LATN 1302 Elementary Latin II
SP 2011 WCL 2352 World Cinema

I'll be done with the silly freshmen courses for my major this semester!

And my fall semester ended up being a 3.0, not a 4.0. Turns out I got a C in my online comm class even though I missed the last test. I could retake it for a higher grade, but a C's all I need and I can live with it on my transcript.

Also, Latin is a M/W/F class from 12pm - 1pm, the rest are T/Th, first class at 1pm. I love waking up at 7-8am and being able to do NOTHING for 5 hours before class. :D
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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why would you wake up early just to do nothing?
phi_'s avatar
11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I'm pretty much useless for a few hours after waking up, so I like having the time to wake up and relax before classes. I'm a pretty irritable person, so it's a necessity.
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11 years ago
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ah. maybe sit on the porch with a mug of coffee and a cigarette, enjoying the morning sunlight and the crisp winter air?

(r2: fuck.. upon investigation, houston is colder than i suspected. maybe revision comments are a very good idea.)
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11 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Yeah, it's 40F outside right now, and I hate it.
Oddly enough, I can't smoke a cigarette for a few hours after waking. Nor do I enjoy coffee. :(
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11 years ago
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no wonder you're irritable.

maybe you should speedball your morning with ritalin and whiskey
phi_'s avatar
11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
My best mornings usually involve an Odwalla Superfood bar. Have you had those? They're like magic. I can be lethargic and scatter-brained all day, but when I eat one of those I'm fine. Probably a mind-over-matter thing, but they're tasty and not terrible for you like most breakfast goods.
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11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I know what you mean about savoring the hours you're awake before you have to do anything. I mean, I savor even 15 minutes of extra time before I have to be somewhere...
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11 years ago
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i haven't had the superfood bar, but i've had the superfood drink (which i like)
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
just graduated: BSBA MIS, philosophy minor
bachelor of science, business administration - management information systems

looking for some interesting courses to take independently. checked out berkeley's extension campus program for quite a few hours over the last two weeks. looking to lay out a certificate education path for myself as well.
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11 years ago
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what kind of certs?
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm thinking about a postbacc premed program...
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
I'm interested in these certs so far:

Cisco:
CCNA&CCDA => CCDP => CCDE

CompTIA:
A+, Net+, Sec+, Project+

ICMCI:
CMC

IIBA:
CCBA, CBAP

OGC:
ITIL V3 Foundation

PMI:
CAPM, PMP

Independent study:
1. BABOK
2. PMBOK
3. BCS - ISEB curriculum:
ITIL® / IT Service Management
Business Analysis / Change
Project Management and Support
4. Negotiation

Berkeley extension certificate programs considered:
1. Business Analysis
2. Business Intelligence and SAS Analytics
3. Business Process Management (BPM)
4. Database Management
5. Philosophy and Religion
6. Project Management
7. Post-Baccalaureate Certificate in Information Systems and Management
8. Quantitative Analysis
Chiken's avatar
11 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
I may actually be doing the CCNA and CCDA at the end of this summer.
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11 years ago
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i think the ccda would be cool. then again, as you probably know, i have thought that since 2003.

it's too bad you didn't get the a+, net+ and sec+ before the end of the year (they now expire after three years). however, i doubt the continuing education requirements would be difficult for you (but they do take a bit of time and money).
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
chiken: cool, i'm setting out my timelines.

lr:
i don't really mind that i missed it.
did you get Net+ and Sec+ before the end of the year?
are you going to go for the ccda then also?
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11 years ago
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yeah, i got net+ and sec+ on dec 30 in idaho falls (treacherous driving).

i got a comptia membership, so if you want to be one of my "employees" to get the discount, let me know!

i don't have plans to get the ccda at this point.
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
any other cert plans?
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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nah. some other ones sound cool (ccna+sec, server+, linux+, ctt+), but i doubt i'll pursue them.
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11 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
You know... I have 0 certs.

Not a one.

I've done a hell of a lot of training. Heck I've even been required to get certs. But when it comes down to it. I never have the time, and the bosses always excuse me from it. And it's never even come up in a job interview. So I wonder. Are certs even really worth a damn?
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
maybe they're not worth it for you. personally i don't see how you can depend on a boss excusing you from a requirement. it's fortunate that you were chosen at your interviews based on other things. as for myself i think i'll work on these as small achievements to sport like pins -- just to say i fuckin did it.
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11 years ago
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Martin
I'm with nny.

Hell, I never even went to college, I just did high school.

If my boss is a shortsighted guy who can't look past a piece of paper, then I'm not sure if I want to be working for that guy.

I think my domain name /email address (rwxrwxrwx.net) might say more than 100 certs ... There's a good reason I use that address on my CV ...
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11 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
My job experience gets me work. That or my extensive network of contacts in the technical world. And from what I know that is what gets 90% of people jobs. It's simply worth more than any cert.
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11 years ago
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you're right. but occasionally it's nice to sport pens.
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11 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Okay, here is a word of advice.

It's 5:04 pm. You are jacket on, laptop packed, just about to fire up the ipod / cell phone mp3s and head out of the office... RING RING RING. You look at the phone. You don't know the name of the person. You have a choice... walk... or stay.

I choose to stay. I answer the phone. Some dude is on the other line. Sometimes it's an habitual procrastinator... sometimes it's just some guy in a bind hoping against all odds someone can help.

Choose to help. Calm them down, empathize with them, and do EVERYTHING possible to make sure they leave feeling good about what you did for them. Occasionally you'll end up a hero.

And that one guy/gal you ended up in a bad situation with, and stuck it out with. That guy/gal that ended up on a job site with you after your pre-sales team dropped you onto a hostile customer with no prep or support.... the stories are endless, and we all have them. Those are people whom become your friends for life. And any one of those people you work with, will be worth more to you than any certification or award you ever receive. They will back you in internal politics, find you new opportunities in organizations, or simply say "this guy was my hero" when asked. In IT / Ops, we don't have many good business relationships. We take the blame all the damned time, especially as outside contractors. People tend to even from the inside of an IT organization regard all IT people as a potential liability right off the bat. It's a hostile environment to be in.

I'd skip out on a cert any day of the week to help a person out on the job. That cert isn't going to say a god damned thing to anyone once it's filed away in some closet. And that's the most important lesson in business. It's all about people. Build bridges, keep them healthy with some semi regular checking in, and on that rare occasion you might end up needing them... they will be there. And in this fashion you'll also know who you can rely on to do your own job.

=D
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11 years ago
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ok.

so do you have some people for me to save or something?

otherwise, i'll just do another cert
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
what's so terrible about taking a test on a topic you study for? wait -- oh fuck, i could be helping the living shit out of someone right now!

i have a hard time understanding why you think that the cert is only the paper recognition from the achievement. so you're telling me that for anyone who takes a cert, follows the requirements, passes it, it does nothing for them that real work can't do?

look at the PMP, it requires three years in a PM role or five without a bachelors.
CBAP takes 7500 hours of work experience within ten years in a BA role.

how would this ever say nothing about you to your network, and nothing about your work experience, and nothing about your ability to satisfy requirements, and nothing about your ability to represent standards?

i agree that experience and network carries one's professional life, that doesn't mean certificate work doesn't contribute to your experience or your network, same with education.

i think your cert vs altruism opportunity cost is ridiculous. i do see your point about helping others and being proactive about your network, we all should do that. so, when is it ever the case that you consistently, over the course of your self-managed study time, have to make the decision to help someone or study? again i see your point but i disagree with your argument.

certs aren't golden keys to unlock the treasure on bowsers' ship to give to the princess. it's like: playing a bonus level where you are awarded wings in your que, or getting the mushroom at the end of the level, "i'mma use that shit later". it's not like: hey i'll play this level to dick around with yoshi so i can hopefully get to use him later, or hope for his future level karma returns. maybe getting yoshi isn't that bad, but i'd say he's better with wings :p have an apple yoshi. see i'm tending!
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11 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
While certs aren't the most important thing, they certainly can't hurt you. If anything they only would strengthen the confidence the employer has that he is making the right choice in choosing you for the position, especially if you have already been recommended by someone in your network.

So if you have the work experience and technical skills, you probably don't need them. But someone like me, who's just entering the work force, certs can really do nothing but good things.
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11 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Ha! My dorm from last semester is still open, so they're moving me back into it. Moving Saturday! Classes begin Tuesday. Wish me luck.
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11 years ago
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not only are certs a signal to potential employers (e.g., i cared enough to study for, pay for, and pass this exam), but you also learn in the process!

i learned a decent amount in the process of studying for security+ (and even network+ to a small extent)!
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11 years ago
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hey dp, i have an 80% off comptia coupon. you have to buy the voucher this month (you don't have to schedule the exam anytime soon, you just have to choose the exam). want it?
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
sure!
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11 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
how much am i paying you?
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
nothing--just the 20% to comptia.
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11 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
sweet, purchased. thanks!
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
for which exam did you use it?
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11 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
220-701 A+ essentials
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
so what did it cost? like $40?
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11 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
$173.00 Non-Member
$138.00 Member Rate
($110.40) Coupon
________
$27.60

:D thanks again!
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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that's a pretty solid deal
Chiken's avatar
11 years ago
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Chiken
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Spring semester done!

The only thing separating me from a masters degree is a crash course in EE and Cryptography!

I'll update sometime next week with the grades from this semester.
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11 years ago
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the law is no protection
looked at tuition rates today. my old school costs literally ten times as much money as the state school.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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the law is no protection
and the state school has the wooooorst times for math courses. it's like monday-thursday at 10 in the morning. I need night classes!
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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so what you gonna do?
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11 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
University Physics I FTW over summer!
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I don't know what I'm going to do.
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
well, umass boston has classes in the fall that are two days/week and late afternoon/evening. so I think I'm going to plan on that. it'll give me all summer to work out finances (especially aid!), admissions, and schedule limitations at work.
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11 years ago
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actually planning to go back to school to learn something that I've really enjoyed in the past is kind of exciting. kind of scary too, because despite always being good at math, I've never done anything beyond one calculus course. I should use the summer to brush up on the material from that course.
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11 years ago
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the law is no protection
never mind getting a job with a bachelor's in math. I might want to teach middle or high school math though.
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11 years ago
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> never mind getting a job with a bachelor's in math.

why not?
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm just under the impression that it's not an easy thing to do.
Chiken's avatar
11 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
Network Design - A
Network Security - A+
Security Management - A
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
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asemi: i think it is. it's generally regarded as highly as a good cs degree.
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11 years ago
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the law is no protection
I hope so! either way, it's gonna take me a few years to get. unless I fall into a pile of money and can quit my job.
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11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
What do you want to do with your life, asemi?
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I have no idea. but I like doing math.
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11 years ago
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Martin
Good answer.
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11 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Would you like to have some pizza with your math?
http://9gag.com/gag/119352/
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
just scheduled an advising appointment for a week from friday. I'm going to get a bachelor's in physics I think.
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11 years ago
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Martin
\o/
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11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Nice, asemi!
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
reading asemi's posts about school for the past few months makes me feel hopeful about life.

thanks, man.
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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i ❤ demo
i.e., thx, bro
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I'm not a bro, butthead!
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
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i.e., "thx, bro"
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11 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
etrangere you could be a bro. i'm willing to extend that honor to you in spite of the gender barrier.
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11 years ago
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Martin
Well, no one is perfect.
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
bleh.
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11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Doing terribly.
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Why?
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
next on my agenda: math placement test. the trig stuff is killing me.
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11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
ouch. failed my university physics test. I think I did decently on my linear algebra final.
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I was rereading this thread and thought this post by me was funny:

shit I can't wait to be done! then I will have my bachelor's.



because simply having my bachelor's is about all those four years were good for.
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11 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
^This renews my motivation.

Too bad I'm starting Statistics for the Sciences next week. :(
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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I am not a robot...
> because simply having my bachelor's is about all those four years were good for.

I am feelin' this too, right now.
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Gatz what the hell is your major?
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11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Computer science with a minor in Math.
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I miss the days when learning and creating were my occupations.
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11 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I miss the days when finger painting until i got tired meant i got a juice box a cookie and a nap.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
34/35 on my math placement exam. now I can register for calc 1!
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
after 48 hours (argh).
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I wonder if there exist people who are awful at math but still like it.
Chiken's avatar
11 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
I'm awful at math but still like it
dannyp's avatar
11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
same here, i like it quite a bit but it's not something i would endeavor as a profession.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
registered for classes today! and attended some ridiculous financial aid seminar. their financial aid office only took into account the credits transferred prior to a certain date, including some classes I withdrew from, and told me that my "completion rate" was too low. so I had to sit through an hour of some financial aid employee saying "do you know what gpa is????", "now, if you're a visual learner like me this example transcript might help you understand 'completion rate'", "now I'm asian so I'm great at math" (this isn't stand up comedy, you can't point out your positive racial stereotypes), etc.

but the important thing is that I registered for classes.
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11 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
Holy shit I barely got past Linear. Oh well. Glad that shit is over with.
 
11 years ago
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karpet
awesomeness!
I'm going to school in the fall! Marketing and Entrepreneurship! Fun Fun Fun!
andre's avatar
11 years ago
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andre
Delivered my thesis to my advisor today. I'll probably be done with this in a month or so.
phi_'s avatar
11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
\o/

GO ANDRE!
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11 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
unless yer thesis adviser steals that shit and leaves you a broken shell of a man.
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11 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
Got an 18 on my first stats test. 2nd test I got an 87, test 3 got an 86. Final will replace this grade, so I'm aiming for an A.
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11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Got a B in stats.
Étrangère's avatar
11 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Way to go gatz! I was watching your FB updates...keeping fingers crossed for you
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10 years ago
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andre
Defended my thesis today. You can call me doctor now :P
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10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
congratulations! that's great. what are you going to do with your new degree?
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10 years ago
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Dunno really... at some point in the past I thought I would want to work with research exclusively but now I'm not so sure... The "egosystem" of researchers at least in my uni is not really something I would like to be involved with.

Since I'm pretty happy with my job and really need a break from research stuff, I guess it'll count as a nice learning experience, at least for now.
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10 years ago
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haha, egosystem

can't you apply it to something other than research?
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10 years ago
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andre
I guess I could work as a teacher and do no research, which would be cool I think, but not financially advantageous.
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Dr Andre! :D

Good job, sir!
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10 years ago
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andre
Thanks!
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10 years ago
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I am not a robot...
Great job Andre!! What is your current job and what was your doctorate field of study?
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10 years ago
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> Étrangère: either move to san luis obispo or out of the country. subsequently find a job.

if you move to slo, i'd only be 100 miles away!
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10 years ago
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> that's like fifteen flip clocks! D:

whoa, can you imagine a wall with fifteen flip clocks? their flips would all be slightly offset, so the wall would chatter every minute.
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Étrangère, I work as a network manager in a web hosting company. This is just a title though and what I like about the job is that I get to work with a lot of different things like sys admin stuff, networking, systems programming (and they actually let me use the weird languages I like :) and project management.

The field of study was... hard to tell. In theory it's Artificial Intelligence but the two papers we wrote were published in a Physics magazine... We created a model for the neocortex based on random graphs, with a distributed algorithm running on top of it.
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10 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
hotness.
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10 years ago
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I am not a robot...
holy shit andre. :D

> can you imagine a wall with fifteen flip clocks? their flips would all be slightly offset, so the wall would chatter every minute.

Aurgasm!
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10 years ago
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Rocking Cal 3. Killin it in discrete. I'm a phenom in physics 2, and Data structures and algorithms I've done 0 work.
Chiken's avatar
10 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
I am on my last nerves this semester. It's my last one and I've only got two classes but man am I feeling the heat. Doin' pretty well in crypto but the EE class is just beating me to a pulp. only 3 more months..........
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10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
registered for next semester
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Me too!

COMM 2322 - Television Production I - Paul Schneider - (3.0cr)
Tu: 1730 - 1930		COM144	(Lecture)
Th: 1730 - 2030		COM122	(Lab)

COMM 2328 - Broadcast and Film Writing - Christopher Northup - (3.0cr)
Mo/We: 1600 - 1730	COM144	(Lecture)

COMM 3320 - Audio Production - Paul Schneider - (3.0cr)
Mo: 0900 - 1100		COM144	(Lecture)
We: 0900 - 1200		COM144	(Lab)

LATN 2302 - Intermediate Latin II - Jonathan Zecher - (3.0cr)	
Mo/We: 1300 - 1430	AH 108	(Lecture)


Looks like COM144 is my new home. :-/

(edit: I can never remember the tags ... sigh)
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10 years ago
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me too. here's my second-quarter ph.d full-load (macro, micro, metrics):

ECON 204B - MACROECON THEORY
KAPICKA M
T R    2:00 PM-3:15 PM    NH 2212
F      1:00 PM-1:50 PM    NH 2212

ECON 210B - GAME THEORY
GARRATT R J 
M W    2:00 PM-3:15 PM    NH 2212
F      3:00 PM-3:50 PM    NH 2212

ECON 241B - ECONOMETRICS
STEIGERWALD D 
M W    9:30 AM-10:45 AM   NH 2212
F     10:00 AM-10:50 AM   NH 2212

Total Units: 12.0


all three are in one of the econ department's conference rooms, which i really appreciate
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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phi_
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What's up with the odd-ball Friday times?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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those are supposed to be recitation times led by TAs
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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phi_
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Ah, okay. Figured it was something along those lines, just wanted to make sure.
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10 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Abstract Algebra
Automata
Probability
Some other CS bullshit.
Chiken's avatar
10 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
took my last final tonight. 100% done with school.
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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i got my grades for the quarter. i'm still in the ph.d program! i have to retake microeconomics, though.
asemisldkfj's avatar
10 years ago
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nice work. I've been at work for 45 minutes (it's 6:15) and I have my calculus final at 6:30 tonight. I probably should have studied yesterday.
asemisldkfj's avatar
10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
b+ in calc, a- in cs. was really hoping to make an a in calc but I can live with it.

if I hadn't fucked up the last question on the final (using integration to find the volume of a three dimensional solid) because I blanked on how to shift a graph on the x-axis I probably would have got it. (or maybe not, but I'm still bitter about that question, especially because I did it on the train ride home and it was easy as shit.)
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10 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
I hate that feeling when you get a question wrong and then once the test it over it hits you how stupid you were. I got that big time on my physical layers final on a question about modulation schemes.

but I finished out my masters with all A's, getting A+ in cryptography and A+ in physical layers.
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10 years ago
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shit. nice work.

that happens to me way too often on exams. I routinely memorize questions, solve them on my commute home, and kick myself for it.
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Fall 2012 - Schedule

T/R - 1430-1600 - CLAS 3397 - Martyrdom through Antiquity
T - 1300-1430 - COMM 3383 - Digital Editing
W - 1300-1430 - CLAS 3307 - Greek & Roman Myth of Heroes
M - 1730-2030 - COMM 3323 - Multimedia Production I

Only 3 hours left til my minor (Classical Studies) is complete.
Only 6 hours left til my major (Media Production) is complete.

:D
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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How bad of a felony is it if I try to burn UH to the ground?

How about if I succeed in burning UH to the ground?

I think I can handle prison.
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10 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
pretty sure they might just shoot you for that.
phi_'s avatar
10 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Texas uses lethal injection ... unless you're a minority, then they just shoot or tase you to death.
nny's avatar
10 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Stand your ground =P
nestor's avatar
9 years ago
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nestor
writing level 1 CFA exam on saturday.

not quite school, but having been out for 2 1/2 years it damn well feels like it.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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i'm a first-year econ ph.d. student again! trying to kill it this time. keepin' my mind on my goal.
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9 years ago
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me, 11 months ago > i have to retake microeconomics, though.

i'm doing that right now. more than that, i have to completely retake my first-year coursework.
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9 years ago
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This school thing is not going very well for me :(
nny's avatar
9 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
every now and again I am tempted to try and complete my college degree. but it never seems worth it.
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Registered for next semester:

CLAS 2366 - Who Owns Antiquity? (hooray, a sophomore class!)
CLAS 3397 - Martyrdom Through Antiquity
COMM 3383 - NLE
COMM 4370 - Social Aspects of Film

My minor will be completed next semester, and I will only need an additional 2-3 classes to complete my major. Then I'll be fucking done.
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9 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
congrats man.
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9 years ago
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Yea I'm chugging along very very not well. They don't offer my CS classes every semester and I work a full time job at an investment bank. :(
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9 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
DaGr8Gatzby that's very much why I don't ever complete my degree. How the hell one does work + school is beyond me.
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in my experience, their success rate is very low. our undergrad econ program is very difficult, and it seems that most of the kids at risk of failing out have spend too much time working (not enough studying).
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9 years ago
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nestor
i seriously doubt i will make it back to grad school. pv of compensation foregone and the state of finance research really lessen the appeal for me.

the role i am in is far more academic than my previous role, and really as good as it gets in canada. investment management at a pension plan means very few sales-type interactions, decent comp with a DB plan, and a very reasonable work-life balance.
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9 years ago
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Nestor == fucking genius
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9 years ago
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yeah, sounds pretty damn awesome, nestor.

i'm kinda questioning this whole ph.d. thing, but i'm probably just frustrated.
 
9 years ago
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awesomeness!
I guess I get to join this conversation as well! I'm grinding through a BBA. I decided the best thing to do was to take all of my core business courses in one year, terrible idea. If I do get through it though, i'll have two years of super chill "fun" stuff. I am starting to wonder how useful this will be for me, but I want a piece of paper.

Good luck kids, exams are right around the corner! study hard, or for some of you, research hard (always?)?
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Fuck Communication Law & Ethics. I hate it and I hate everyone who likes it.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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good luck on the cfa exam, nestor. when are you taking it?
nestor's avatar
9 years ago
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nestor
it was last saturday - done!
bsdlite's avatar
9 years ago
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> i'm kinda questioning this whole ph.d. thing

we're hiring... and we have awesome coffee.
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9 years ago
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nestor: how did it go?

bsdlite: at amazon? i'll keep at this ph.d unless i get kicked out between now and summer 2013.
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9 years ago
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it went fine. it is a tough exam. minimum passing score is not known, but is estimated widely to be in the 65-70% range. on the previous 6 mock exams before i wrote it, i was getting an 82.5% average with a standard deviation of 3.5% - the probability of failing is minimal. yet i still worry about it. in any case, results come out in late january.
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9 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
economists and statisticians... they figure out their actual likelihood of failure. so sad. this is why our economy is hosed.
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9 years ago
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nestor
good thing i'm neither
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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lucas
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:x
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Got my senior ring today. Guess that's kinda cool.
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9 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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DAmn Phi_ is taking me out. Big time.
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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phi_
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I was in a suit and everything. Like a boss.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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lucas
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waiting for a grade, to find out if i'm leaving ucsb.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
9 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Probably going to flunk out of college.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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i passed all of my classes, and i got full funding for the next quarter! i'm teaching finance. so i guess i'll finally be learning some finance, nestor!
Chiken's avatar
9 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
congrats larz
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9 years ago
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nestor
congrats! let me know if you want to chat about anything re: finance - happy to give the practitioner view if that would be at all useful.
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9 years ago
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I didn't flunk out. Finally pulled 2 decent grades out of my booty. Wow. I'll be attending another semester. Never saw this one coming.
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9 years ago
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thinks darkness is his ally
> i passed all of my classes, and i got full funding for the next quarter!

grats!!!
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9 years ago
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thanks, all.

good job, gatz. :)
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Proper schedule:
M: CLAS2366 - 13-16 - AH 11
T: CLAS3397 - 1430-16 - L 212P
W: COMM4370 - 1430-1730 - COM 244 (worst classroom ever)
R: COMM3383 - 13-1430 - COM 243
   CLAS3397 - 1430-16 - L 212P
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9 years ago
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MoWe : COSC 3380, 4:00PM - 5:30PM
MoWe : COSC 4351, 5:30PM - 7:00PM
TTr: COSC 4330, 5:30PM - 7:00PM
nestor's avatar
9 years ago
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nestor
crushed CFA level 1. on to level 2 - june 1.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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haha sick. nestor, i don't like teaching intro finance. zzz
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9 years ago
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nestor
you don't want to incorporate any of my practical wisdom? :)
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9 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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I keep failing my assignments because this professor is a nazi. I dunno wtf her deal is.
asemisldkfj's avatar
9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
winword.exe
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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lucas
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do you have practical examples of when you used the annuity formula? :p
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9 years ago
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nestor
ha, ha.

i've only ever seen it used in defined asset life models (like a mine) when people are lazy. you model the first 20 years in detail then run off the last n years of cash flow using an annuity formula.

on the other hand, we use the perpetuity / perpetuity + growth formula all the time -- any discounted cash flow model with a "normal" business will use the formula.
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9 years ago
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teaching another guy's class for a couple weeks at 8 a.m. on wednesdays. today: basic stats. :[
phi_'s avatar
9 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I compared the martyrdom of Perepetua and Felicitas to Hellraiser in class today. Then the teacher proposed a thought experiment where Clive Barker became a born-again Christian ... I countered with Hellrazer.

I really love this class, but the subject matter is abysmal.
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9 years ago
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i have qualifying exams in 2, 3, and 4 weeks, then i finally get a break. thank god.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
9 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Made it through the semester. Holy shit no idea how I did that. Summer courses now. 8 classes til I graduate. Fucking school.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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wrote my micro exam today. it went well! two weeks left.
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9 years ago
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metrics exams tomorrow. only one week left!

at the margin, this exam decides if i have to study this summer or not.

i'll be quite surprised if i fail, however.
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9 years ago
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passed all of my exams. i get to stay in the program!
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9 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Yay!
ozntz's avatar
9 years ago
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ozntz
toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Go Lucas!
phi_'s avatar
8 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
6 hours next semester and I am DONE.
asemisldkfj's avatar
8 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
niiiiiiiiiice. fuck school.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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just added my silly second master's degree to my cv.
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8 years ago
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i decided on my ph.d. fields. i'm going to specialize in:

labor economics
behavioral and experimental economics
econometrics

i gave up on trying to be a macroeconomist. i just don't find it interesting enough. i hope to be a general microeconomist--a bit of theory, a bit of experimental, a bit of applied metrics, and maybe even some methodology! i'm happy about this.

i've also realized that i need to buckle down if i want to end up at a low-tier research university.
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8 years ago
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i'm pretty frustrated. i've been planning to apply for funding from my department to run an experiment this summer. i really want to do it this summer so i can get some decent research underway. i just got the call for proposals, and the proposal is due in four days! i anticipated the short notice, though, and have been meeting with professors. but then i read that i need to have my experiment approved by the university's office of research, human subjects committee before consideration for departmental funding. that's impossible to get done in four days (two of which are the weekend). i can't believe the professor didn't warn me of this requirement. :/

so it seems that if i want to run an experiment this summer, i'll be the one funding it. it'll probably cost about $2500. ugh
nestor's avatar
8 years ago
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nestor
cash flowwwwwwwww
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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found out that human subjects committee approval is largely a formality.

got my proposal turned in by the deadline, and also got my faculty letter of support submitted!

nestor, do you have any research interests in finance/economics? we could co-author!
nestor's avatar
8 years ago
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nestor
finance, yes, economics, no. and realistically my finance interests are closer to accounting than the bulk of what goes into finance research these days.
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8 years ago
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Martin
I want some human test subjects too!
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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to be clear: the experimental design must be approved by my university's human subjects committee before conducted, but not necessarily before my department considers my funding proposal. :)
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8 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Spoilsport
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8 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Maybe you can experiment if wearing a shirt from http://mytailor.com/ improves performance.
nestor's avatar
8 years ago
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nestor
yeah so i crushed CFA level 2 exam last june. final one (level 3) coming up in less than three weeks.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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yea! slay 'em
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8 years ago
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lucas
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this quarter is almost over. i only need to take two more classes to get a ph.d.! of course, i also have an entire dissertation to write...
phi_'s avatar
8 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Nice!

I supposedly only have one more class until I get my BA. But I've heard this before.
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8 years ago
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haha