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13 years ago
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i've been coding this forum on and off for over a year, now. two things that have discouraged me are problems with sessions and permissions. so today i decided to hack that code out, and toss it online.

this shit's hotter than your bathtub water.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
ttf will flourish, ga's won't be the cultivator here.
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
ga's? yeah, i'm diggin this design. glad to hear you figured out the problems.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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i didn't figure them out. this version simply doesn't use sessions or permissions. i just cut out those features.

ga = genetic algorithm

i was thinking about using a ga with a wiki-style forum, and it would shuffle shit around and constantly optimize the organization of content.
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13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
this is cool. someday I might steal your code. I also can't wait until Friday when I get a real internet connection and can see the forums in a GUI browser.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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haha
 
13 years ago
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dynek
I panic when there are too many people around
I really like it.

But who's quick and dirty ? :)
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13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
One of the better forums I've seen! None of that fancy-shmancy eye candy or bells & whistles. And NOT an ezboard. Always a plus.
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13 years ago
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lucas: can you add a small space to the right of the "click to post" box? not that it's going to kill me, but the cursor is too near the black box when i click on the text area...
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13 years ago
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yeah, i'll add the same padding as the post boxes above. thanks. :)
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
tsmfa?
i'm just wondering
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
the sketchiest mother fucker around...
i just got it.
 
13 years ago
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cac
admits to increasing the saturation a bit
i don't like bath water
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
because it fits better than a glove?
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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browsers that render the forums perfectly as intended:
netscape 7.0 (mozilla 5.0) on solaris 9
opera 8 on freebsd 5.4
firefox 1.0.6 on windows xp pro

<a href="other/board.gif">original design/layout</a> by mr. ed slavin
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
i dig that original design, esp. the recent posts part
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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besides the recent posts part, what do you prefer over this?
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
actually that's it. otherwise i'm very happy here.
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13 years ago
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please post suggestions for ttf improvement.

TODO:

add simple tag support to posting {b, i, u, a, img}
user-defined timezone
forgotten password feature
make html/css more compatible
change e-mail feature
search feature
user list feature
more posting support {quote, edit, delete, report}
on-line users feature
user-defined css support

ttf mission: fast, clean.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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added feature: if you post a url, it is automatically linked.
 
13 years ago
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dbrown
beautiful, i wouldn't mind seeing that bit of code...
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13 years ago
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it's pretty badass code.. i guess it also shortens long urls:
http://www.thinktankforums.com/thread.php?thread_id=55

:)
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13 years ago
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surreal
I like the forum. . . good layout and efficent.
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
more profile options, e.g. change the text below your nick, location, interests, current playlist, etc.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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nah, you can do that stuff yourself. a single text box gives you the most options and leaves the creation of yourself up to yourself!

check out larz's profile:
http://www.thinktankforums.com/profile.php?user_id=33
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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in your posts and in your profile, bold, italic, underline, and pre tags work. just use html!

boom
boom
boom
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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oh, and now there are 20 threads displayed per page, with a "next" link to see the next 20.
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12 years ago
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would you guys prefer "pages" for replies inside threads? like every 20 replies makes a new page?

personally, i don't really like pages in threads. i like to scroll like mad.
in thread view, you usually don't have to click next often because all that shit is old. so the "next" link is just for archival purposes

but when reading a thread, if you like to move around fast, it's nice to have it all on one page. maybe if there were like 200 replies,a split might be nice. i might have the option definable in the profile, as will be a timezone, and.. maybe even a greeting! where it says "i summon you here, my love" on the main page.. each user can define that for himself. i think that would be funny
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Nah, pages suck. Stick with the current layout, but splits on extremely long threads would be OK; I'd say start splitting it up at 50 posts.
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12 years ago
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surreal
The splits would be a good idea.
With the forum only displaying 20 threads at a time, it would be nice to have a previous 20 as well.
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12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
Topic splits with back references ;)
sriehl's avatar
12 years ago
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sriehl
surreal
Possibly having a link posted in a thred to open up in a new window.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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no. if you want to open it in a new window, use your shift key. as soon as i make it open in a new window, noone can make it open in the same window. this is a restrictive feature, and in the case of ttf, a bug.
 
12 years ago
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dbrown
maybe make it an option to have it open in a new window? set in the users option page.
 
12 years ago
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dru
The Art of Subconscious Illusion
i didnt read through the whole thing, but how about a way to edit postes after you mess up.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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yeah, editing is useful. i don't know what's so hard about middle clicking or using the shift button for a new window, though.
 
12 years ago
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dbrown
no middle mouse button and if it's an issue to code it i'm not that worried, it's just a suggestion.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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and i appreciate the suggestion, but i'm seriously trying to avoid unnecessary features.
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12 years ago
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dannyp
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lr mentioned using the shift button. shift-click it dbrown!
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12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
You can also RightClick-> open in new window/tab.
 
12 years ago
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dbrown
ugh, i'm aware of the multitude of ways to open in a new window. personally i use ctrl-shift-left click to open in a tab in the background.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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i merged the "news and articles" forum with the "politics" forum.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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committed a timezone feature.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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committed a user list feature.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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timezones actually work now.

avatars are now stored in the actual database (as opposed to a directory).
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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sticky thread feature eliminated (never used).

additional user tracking implemented.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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now this is what i call a totaletarian message board!
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I assume spell check is next on your list?

:P
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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damnit.. sometimes i punch a word into google to see if it corrects me. i guess there are enough misspellings on the web that google got it wrong :(
dannyp's avatar
12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
not sure if you ever use this "define: word"
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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yeah, a lot
 
12 years ago
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zenlunatic
GNU and BSD user
wassup everybody nice forums lucas
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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who's online? i think this will become a sidebar (on the left.. ref: http://www.thinktankforums.com/images/board.gif ).
dannyp's avatar
12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
Whoa that's cool, I really like that!
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I'm diggin' it, lr.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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new feature: i can ban people very easily.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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bump (test post)
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
nice that ban feature looks pretty cool.
dannyp's avatar
12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
Is there any special way for regular users to add html to their profile?
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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no. there is a normal way. type it.

note that only b, u, i, pre tags are supported.
 
12 years ago
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arun
keep smiling !
ttf needs a jump-to-new-posts link. Scrolling sometimes is tedious.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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truth.
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12 years ago
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looks like the ban feature is working.. check out #2 for entrance and exit:

http://www.clanbbw.com/publicimg/data/images/content.gif
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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search feature:
http://www.thinktankforums.com/search.php

sorry it's not integrated into ttf yet. i'm tired. at least i have ghetto-search working.

<font face="courier">SELECT ttf_post.thread_id, ttf_post.post_id, ttf_post.author_id,
ttf_post.date, ttf_post.body, ttf_thread.title, ttf_user.username,
MATCH(ttf_post.body) AGAINST ('$string') AS score
FROM ttf_post
LEFT JOIN ttf_thread ON ttf_post.thread_id=ttf_thread.thread_id
LEFT JOIN ttf_user ON ttf_post.author_id=ttf_user.user_id
WHERE MATCH(ttf_post.body) AGAINST ('$string')
ORDER BY score DESC</font>
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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arun> ttf needs a jump-to-new-posts link. Scrolling sometimes is tedious.

i just made this feature. it's not as clean/efficient as it could be, but i'm feeling lazy right now and it only took 15 minutes.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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we need a "fatty" button to make the reply boxes larger
dannyp's avatar
12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
yes, especially for the philosophy section :D
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
how about allowing PNG avatars!
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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sorry about that. i thought i had it correctly implemented, but i forgot to fix a error check. thanks! (it works now.)
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
cool, thanks :).
 
12 years ago
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Hess
Well on the way to the unknown
Man, lr can do anthing!!

I was wondering though, which programing languages do you use?
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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ttf is 100% php4, mysql4, xhtml1, css2.

myself, i also use C for other projects.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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next i'll (finally) be adding edit and delete features. but if you know anything about me, you know that i'm an obsessive-compulsive data pack-rat. to that end, there will be no delete per se, rather an archive feature. additionally, edits will be stored as revisions using diffs. all users will be able to view the revision history of any post, although only the latest revision will be displayed in the thread.

comments?
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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one question, as well:

do you access thinktankforums.com or www.thinktankforums.com?
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12 years ago
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dannyp
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i don't really know. it's a toss up. I only remember myself typing thinktankforums.com but i often click on the url that pops up after typing 'thinktank' if it's on my computer which has www.thinktankforums.com in it, or I punch the button..
 
12 years ago
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Hess
Well on the way to the unknown
Bookmarked.

Nice idea with edits/deletions.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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p.s. this thread has been viewed 1,000 times. :o
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12 years ago
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[01:32] wingedleopard: it's be funny if i buss'd ttf and reopened v1
[01:32] wingedleopard: "game over"
[01:32] dp: woah that'd be nuts
[01:32] wingedleopard: made v1 open registration
[01:32] wingedleopard: too many suicides happened on v1
[01:32] wingedleopard: it's sad
[01:33] wingedleopard: maybe subconsciously that's why i haven't made a normal edit or delete feature on ttf...
[01:33] dp: haha fuckin suicides
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I think my bookmark points to www.thinktankforums.com, but if I'm not at home or I don't feel like touching the mouse or trackpad, I don't type the www.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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"i had a dream last night that thinktank was done.
it looked badass in the dream so i'll expect the same from you..."

--db, sept. 14, 2004
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12 years ago
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good job db, way to archive larz!
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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props to madams for making me realize that ttf was using the html trans. dtd and not xhtml strict! now that ttf is rocking xhtml strict, ttf looks awesome in IE!
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12 years ago
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i think i'm going to implement php-markdown. this is a lightweight text formatting markup language.

http://www.michelf.com/projects/php-markdown/

it seems to be just what ttf needs! a few more features and ttf will be ready for a version 1 release.
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
what's up with the spacing of the posts? I'm not into it.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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haha.. it's markdown's doing. i'm gonna fix it later.
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
thank god, it's ugly as shit!
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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well the problem is that it puts paragraph tags around everything. i think i may just disable that particular feature.
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12 years ago
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props to this bro:
http://akinas.com/pages/en/blog/firefox_image_gap

i have cleaned up numerous little design problems now, including reformatting of all forms!

check out the new login form!
 
12 years ago
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dbrown
i'm a fan of the new login.
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12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
sweet sassy molassy, me too!
 
12 years ago
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dynek
I panic when there are too many people around
found anything about the logout and relogin thing when pushing the header's image ?
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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if you can describe the problem more, i can try.

ttf's wikipedia entry! please help expand it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Tank_Forums
 
12 years ago
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dynek
I panic when there are too many people around
It's not there anymore lucas. Weird but it's working just fine now.
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12 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
*ttf* hmm just testing to see if markdown is still on
phi_'s avatar
12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
larz: Hot. I'm diggin the wiki page.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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i just thought to look for a javascript that can do a sha1 hash.. and they exist!

so i'm gonna make the login process completely secure! as it is right now, every time you login to ttf, your password is in cleartext on the wire to the server.

the improvement will be to use the javascript to hash the password on the client side, so your password never hits a wire in cleartext.

security without ssl! :D
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
nice! that's pretty neat. why not ssl, though? just curious.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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lucas
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because reputable certificates cost money
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
yeah, I thought it might have to do with getting a certificate. that javascript deal is really neat.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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&#955;&#945;&#961;&#950; want to be able to buss' greek! gotta fix this!
maple's avatar
12 years ago
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maple
i like large datasets
whats up on the code lucas? can i get a copy? let me take it from tables to css and html to xhtml. it will make it all clean and shiny!
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12 years ago
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lucas
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i recently audited the code (i want it exploit-free and clean before i release it). so i just gotta fix up a few more things and i'll release it. expect it by the end of the year.

thanks for the interest! i'm planning on setting up a svn server and allowing people to help with the development. if you're interested as well, that would be great!
maple's avatar
12 years ago
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i like large datasets
definitely,

i'm stoked. i already have a few ideas for improvements. i totally dig it already though.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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i just upgraded the ttf live web to v1-beta. this involved a complete conversion of database text, so hopefully no information was lost.

the big problem with this change was slashes/magic-quotes. it's still really confusing me what exactly is happening. i hope it works fine.

here's the code!
http://www.thinktankforums.com/dev/v1-beta.zip
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12 years ago
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i like large datasets
awesome! thanks man. im about to dive in
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
nice. congrats lucas. I'm gonna take a look at the code.
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12 years ago
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lucas
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the downfall of ttf?

http://www.thinktankforums.com/images/analyti … 229_00.gif
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12 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Just the holiday blues...
 
12 years ago
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dbrown
has the "jump" function died for anyone else? i can't imagine what setting i might have changed recently to cause it to stop.
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12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
it ain't working in this thread for me. seems to work on others.
 
12 years ago
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arun
keep smiling !
Yeah, I too noticed it. Its not working for me either.
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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fixed it. i must have screwed up the query when i was auditing the code.

it was using:

SELECT ttf_post.post_id FROM ttf_post WHERE ttf_post.thread_id='{$thread["thread_id"]}' ORDER BY ttf_post.date ASC LIMIT 0, 1

instead of the correct:

SELECT ttf_post.post_id FROM ttf_post WHERE ttf_post.thread_id='{$thread["thread_id"]}' ORDER BY ttf_post.date DESC LIMIT 0, 1

i also added the total number of threads to the "next 15 threads" link box on forum.php.
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12 years ago
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i changed ttf to store avatars in the filesystem instead of in the database. now browsers cache the avatars! glorious day!
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11 years ago
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wlwlv1 received 3,935 posts in less than one year (03-jan-04 to 28-dec-04).

ttf is *finally* approaching that number, with 3,781 posts over the course of about 1.5 years (03-sep-05 to 12-feb-07).

i'm still amazed by wlwlv1's success.
 
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hi! just checkin arround to se the ttf interfase. i think im going to usito
great job guys
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11 years ago
r1, link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
this post has been archived.
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11 years ago
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visible post #5000

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM ttf_post WHERE hide='t'

COUNT(*)
212
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11 years ago
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not true! ahh!

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM ttf_post WHERE hide='f'

COUNT(*)
4992

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM ttf_post 

COUNT(*)
5204


=(

my damn archivepost.php script screwed everything up when it wasn't working. sigh.
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11 years ago
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ttf unique visits have held steady at about 1,500/month since january.

ttf page views have doubled from 7,250 in january to 14,675 so far in april.

in the last month, ttf has gotten 202 unique visits from google.com and 151 unique visits from code.google.com.
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11 years ago
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nestor
i'm still trying to figure out the character and direction of ttf (content-wise).

unclassifiable as of yet
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
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it's supposed to be a THINK TANK, yo!
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11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
... what agenda does our think tank have, larz?
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
the truth!
dannyp's avatar
11 years ago
r1, link
dannyp
dʎuuɐp
this post has been archived.
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11 years ago
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dʎuuɐp

ttf's wikipedia entry! please help expand it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Tank_Forums



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TTF

Still need to update the think tank forums wiki article.
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11 years ago
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reports of our traffic sources:

over the last month

since july 2006
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
lots of stuff from virb. cool.
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11 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I see plenty of us use Meebo...
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11 years ago
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http://www.google.com/search?q=related :thinktankforums.com
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11 years ago
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lucas
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grr.. just take out the space, or search "related:thinktankforums.com" on google
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9 years ago
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bluet
Bump.
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9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
:)

awesome thread