i bought an x200s.
bsdlite bought an x200s.
fsmart bought an x200s.
my sister bought a t400.
my dad bought a t400.
i sold my t61 to dannyp.
i sold my x60s to dbrown.
/o/
bsdlite bought an x200s.
fsmart bought an x200s.
my sister bought a t400.
my dad bought a t400.
i sold my t61 to dannyp.
i sold my x60s to dbrown.
/o/
I've got an X60s. :/
School have lots of R500s
i have converted two people in my life to the x army
me too. :D
I have a T61, and no converts to date :(
Seriously crappy Lenovo support also makes me kind of hesitant to sell Thinkpads to companies ... I usually go for HP, their laptops are not so good, but the support is much better.
Seriously crappy Lenovo support also makes me kind of hesitant to sell Thinkpads to companies ... I usually go for HP, their laptops are not so good, but the support is much better.
I've got good experience with HP support as well. Not so with Lenovo.
the whole food security group at Michigan State has been issued R500s.
does ibm handle lenovo's international support?
because ibm does lenovo's u.s. support, and they've always been great to me.
because ibm does lenovo's u.s. support, and they've always been great to me.
I don't know who does support in the Netherlands / Europe, but they do a shit job at it.
And yeah, I've heard better stories from the states.
Just last week I had a customer with a T500 laptop, it was ~6 months old and totally dead. Phoned to Lenovo to request a RMA, I get told that I will be phones back. Two days later: Nothing. I phone again. I again get told I will get phones back. Day later: I get phoned back, the notebook will be picked up by TNT.
Total time taken: About a week.
Every single time I need to do some Lenovo RMA there is some crap attached to it. It's even worse than Apple. Did I ever tell you about my T61 I bought last year (The T61 before the one I own now). Man, it took me three fucking months to get the bloody thing repaired and had to put up with a shitload of nonsense.
HP procedure: I phone, get a RMA number, and it will get picked up the next day, or a part will be shipped, and HP ships *any* part for business laptops. Sometimes we do repairs ourselves if there is a lot of hurry or if the notebook is in such a bad/mishandled shape HP might decide it will void warranty (I've seen some pretty abused and gross laptops).
Lenovo, by teh way, won't ship me any parts.
For me, personally, I choose to have a better laptop and crappy service. If you are a business and need your laptop for work every day: I always tell customers to buy HP...
And yeah, I've heard better stories from the states.
Just last week I had a customer with a T500 laptop, it was ~6 months old and totally dead. Phoned to Lenovo to request a RMA, I get told that I will be phones back. Two days later: Nothing. I phone again. I again get told I will get phones back. Day later: I get phoned back, the notebook will be picked up by TNT.
Total time taken: About a week.
Every single time I need to do some Lenovo RMA there is some crap attached to it. It's even worse than Apple. Did I ever tell you about my T61 I bought last year (The T61 before the one I own now). Man, it took me three fucking months to get the bloody thing repaired and had to put up with a shitload of nonsense.
HP procedure: I phone, get a RMA number, and it will get picked up the next day, or a part will be shipped, and HP ships *any* part for business laptops. Sometimes we do repairs ourselves if there is a lot of hurry or if the notebook is in such a bad/mishandled shape HP might decide it will void warranty (I've seen some pretty abused and gross laptops).
Lenovo, by teh way, won't ship me any parts.
For me, personally, I choose to have a better laptop and crappy service. If you are a business and need your laptop for work every day: I always tell customers to buy HP...
x60s, t61 <3
Some girl came in to work with a thinkpad yesterday. It was the only time I've ever seen anyone outside of this forum with one. She said that, in Idaho, thinkpads are required for business majors! :-o
She likes the battery life.
She likes the battery life.
turns out school use R61's, where the bugger did I get R500 from :S
> It was the only time I've ever seen anyone outside of this forum with one.
i've pointed a few out at rockford before
i've pointed a few out at rockford before
do I get to join this club if I have a z50 ?
no.
:(
brutal rejection
brutal rejection
i got an x41t.
i've been looking at the x200. i WANT IT! there is not really anything on my mac that i use anymore that i cant just do in debian anymore. i spend all my time in emacs and a browser these days. i have a craving for using tiling window managers again. think i may buy one after the new year.
im on the x41t right now writing this and its a good laptop except the screen is too small (1024x768) and its just not bright enough.
any recommendations on the x200? i dont really care about the x200s. but what about with the LED vs LCD screens. i think i read here that the intel 2gb drive or whatever that thing is, is useless.
probably get the 3GB ram and 250gb 5400rpm.
i've been looking at the x200. i WANT IT! there is not really anything on my mac that i use anymore that i cant just do in debian anymore. i spend all my time in emacs and a browser these days. i have a craving for using tiling window managers again. think i may buy one after the new year.
im on the x41t right now writing this and its a good laptop except the screen is too small (1024x768) and its just not bright enough.
any recommendations on the x200? i dont really care about the x200s. but what about with the LED vs LCD screens. i think i read here that the intel 2gb drive or whatever that thing is, is useless.
probably get the 3GB ram and 250gb 5400rpm.
also, the t400s is probably the badest laptop ever, its just too expensive.
get the x200s for bonus battery life!
don't bother with 3gb ram. go to 4gb so you can dual-channel (which requires matching sticks). otherwise, stay at 2gb.
i think 5,400 rpm drives are nice to conserve battery life. but a 7,200 rpm drive will increase performance (potentially dramatically).
i got the high-res led-backlit screen (1440x900 and crazy bright). it's amazing except for the viewing angles. the viewing angles are terrible. i'm thinking about sending it in to replace to lcd--surely they all can't be this bad.
don't bother with 3gb ram. go to 4gb so you can dual-channel (which requires matching sticks). otherwise, stay at 2gb.
i think 5,400 rpm drives are nice to conserve battery life. but a 7,200 rpm drive will increase performance (potentially dramatically).
i got the high-res led-backlit screen (1440x900 and crazy bright). it's amazing except for the viewing angles. the viewing angles are terrible. i'm thinking about sending it in to replace to lcd--surely they all can't be this bad.
actually, ill probably just get 2 gb. i dont need 3. i only have 2 in my mac and run way more shit on it than i would on the x200. wmii/emacs/firefox/mpd and thats about it. 2gb is plenty. i just get excited and think i need something when i really dont. :)
whoa i didnt know the screen was 1440x900 - i thought it was 1280x800. is 1440 on that small screen too much? or is it just that much more awesome?
sucks about the viewing angle.id like to hear how that turns out. if its just yours or just the standard deal.
whoa i didnt know the screen was 1440x900 - i thought it was 1280x800. is 1440 on that small screen too much? or is it just that much more awesome?
sucks about the viewing angle.id like to hear how that turns out. if its just yours or just the standard deal.
> whoa i didnt know the screen was 1440x900 - i thought it was 1280x800.
there are both versions. the upgrade costs $150.
> is 1440 on that small screen too much? or is it just that much more awesome?
it's a little intense, but i definitely appreciate it.
> sucks about the viewing angle.id like to hear how that turns out. if its just yours or just the standard deal.
i'll let you know!
there are both versions. the upgrade costs $150.
> is 1440 on that small screen too much? or is it just that much more awesome?
it's a little intense, but i definitely appreciate it.
> sucks about the viewing angle.id like to hear how that turns out. if its just yours or just the standard deal.
i'll let you know!
i will tell you about the viewing angles when mine arrives.
i hope it's better than mine. :|
im trying to decide between the 1440 and the 1280 so i was reading around -- just found this from someone else:
"I don't know the X200 screen but the one in my X200s (1440x900) is a bummer in a view angles category. Otherwise, it's a champion."
"I don't know the X200 screen but the one in my X200s (1440x900) is a bummer in a view angles category. Otherwise, it's a champion."
My only computer is my R51. Since last month there's a vertical line on my screen. :( Else, no complaints.
the x200s with 1440x900 is such a badass upgrade from the x60s with 1024x768.
here is a screenshot of the x200s with a 1024x768 box shown. so much more area! <3
just gotta figure out these viewing angles. then i'll be in pure love.
here is a screenshot of the x200s with a 1024x768 box shown. so much more area! <3
just gotta figure out these viewing angles. then i'll be in pure love.
maple, you might want to consider doing the affs+ mod.
you get insane viewing angles! img7, img8, img9
you get insane viewing angles! img7, img8, img9
vertical line :( that is only a few crisis levels below hard drive crashing
> img7, img8, img9
WANT!
> vertical line :( that is only a few crisis levels below hard drive crashing
I had a 600 with black holes on the screen and a failing hard drive. It was my webserver for ages. I remember pulling out the hard drive and putting it in again to recover from hard drive failures (while running).
WANT!
> vertical line :( that is only a few crisis levels below hard drive crashing
I had a 600 with black holes on the screen and a failing hard drive. It was my webserver for ages. I remember pulling out the hard drive and putting it in again to recover from hard drive failures (while running).
my new x200s is on the way!
4 gb ram. i think you will find it worth it. but 4 business day shipping? :(
well i was going to upgrade to 4gb myself regardless. it's just that the lenovo upgrade is only $50 after the discount, and if they do it, then accidental protection will cover the part. the cheapest i can find a 2gb stick of ram is like $45.
i guess they read my feedback form. all they do is 4-business-day shipping. yours will be too.
i guess they read my feedback form. all they do is 4-business-day shipping. yours will be too.
Dear Customer Service,
I have been told by a colleague who purchased a thinkpad from you and used the free 2-day shipping option, that you instead shipped it with 4 day shipping. This is obviously a breach of the explicit arrangement between buyer and seller. Under normal circumstances such a mistake would not warrant any more attention than that of annoyance. However, due to traveling and holiday deadlines, such a mistake would result in great inconvenience.
I trust that as my order is expected to ship out tomorrow (the 22nd) with 2-day shipping, that it will arrive on time.
Thank you for your consideration,
Francis Smart
we'll see
haha
they ship via ups worldwide expedited. which can be a two-day service, if shipping from canada. but they ship from asia, so it's a four-day service.
ups worldwide saver would fit the bill.
ups worldwide saver would fit the bill.
right grrr, we'll see
i updated my original post. i've passed on two of my thinkpads!
bluet, dbrown: because your x60s uses a 4:3 12.1" screen, you can install the boe-hydis hv121p01 which is an sxga+ (1400×1050) aafs lcd screen with amazing viewing angles. it's the highest-resolution aafs screen for that form factor. that resolution kicks the shit out of wxga+ (1440×900), which is the highest available on the x200/x200s/x200t.
get on it!
the only bummer is that it costs $250. but damn that's an amazing screen. i'd consider getting an x60s just to have that screen.
get on it!
the only bummer is that it costs $250. but damn that's an amazing screen. i'd consider getting an x60s just to have that screen.
> bsdlite got bought x200s.
> fsmart got bought x200s.
so excited, he forgot to delete his replaced words!
> fsmart got bought x200s.
so excited, he forgot to delete his replaced words!
oops. i double-clicked the wrong word to paste over. ttf needs regexp for the editor.
You know, ttf.py can start vim for you. :)
my x50 is coming today! can't wait for that IBM keyboard feel again.
x50 ?
er, z50.
this may be a weird request but could someone with the x200 with 1440x900 take a picture of their computer up close so i could just see what the resolution looks like on such a small monitor. i would love to have the 1440, but i dont want it to be too tiny on that 12". there is no retail outlets for me to check them out myself anywhere near me.
i guess it doesnt really matter as i can always blow the text up to whatever size i need. i have great vision but now that im pushing 30 i like having larger text than i used too.
anyway, if anyone can pull that off i would appreciate it.
i guess it doesnt really matter as i can always blow the text up to whatever size i need. i have great vision but now that im pushing 30 i like having larger text than i used too.
anyway, if anyone can pull that off i would appreciate it.
sure, i'll take some photos for you this evening.
here they are. i left them in full-resolution so you can see all you want. :)
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looks like lenovo is stiffing me. their sales department is a nightmare. after waiting like 15 minutes the sales guy told me that they do have 2-day shipping but that ups doesn't ship on thursday and saturday. i verified that was a lie within thirty seconds by calling up ups but then i had to wait on the phone another 15 minutes before i could talk with a sales person who told me then that no manager was available to talk to me but that a manager could call me back. we'll see...
hmmm...they haven't called me back yet. i talked with a sony sales rep and they said i could purchase a
they say they will give me 10% off and free 2 year extended service plan upgrade. less power than the x200s but 1.6 lbs and has similar life to that of the x200s
VAIO® X Series Notebook PC
* Model Number: VPCX111KX/B
Intel® Atom™ Processor Z550 (2GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
Features: 11.1" LED backlit LCD, 2GB RAM, 64GB SSD, GPS, Verizon Broadband, Bluetooth, Standard and Extended Batteries
List price - 1299.99
they say they will give me 10% off and free 2 year extended service plan upgrade. less power than the x200s but 1.6 lbs and has similar life to that of the x200s
you'd be seriously disappointed with that processor.
Intel Atom Z550: 2.00 GHz, 512 KB L2 Cache, 533 MHz FSB
Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400: 1.86 GHz, 6 MB L2 Cache, 1066 MHz FSB
that's twelve times the L2 cache. the SL9400 has two cores at 1.86 GHz and 6 MB of L2. i wouldn't want to run stata or r on that vaio. the x200s would kill that vaio computationally.
Intel Atom Z550: 2.00 GHz, 512 KB L2 Cache, 533 MHz FSB
Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400: 1.86 GHz, 6 MB L2 Cache, 1066 MHz FSB
that's twelve times the L2 cache. the SL9400 has two cores at 1.86 GHz and 6 MB of L2. i wouldn't want to run stata or r on that vaio. the x200s would kill that vaio computationally.
yeah...you're right. i guess i am just looking for an excuse to tell the sales department at lenovo to suck it. but the x200s is really so much nicer in so many ways.
Why so mad at lenovo? If shipping from Asia it takes 4 days, and UPS has thursday through saturday off, I don't see what part of this is Lenovo's fault...?
but that is just the thing. ups does ship on thursday and saturday. the reason why lenovo told me that they didn't because they actually shipped it 4 day and they thought it would be easier pretending that it was UPS's fault.
what a waste of time. it seems their customer support number is more of a customer handling number.
anyways, tomorrow i am going to stop caring. really, what is an extra 4 days anyways?
caring about stuff like that always ends in horrible frustration. it sucks.
sometimes i get some satisfaction. some companies go out of their way to make sure their customers are satisfied. others, not so much.
> ups does ship on thursday and saturday
not on this thursday (if the delivery wasn't arranged by today) or saturday (if lenovo doesn't pay for regular ups saturday pickup).
schedule
if they scheduled the shipment by today, then they could have indeed shipped it tomorrow. i suspect that lenovo doesn't pay for ups saturday pickup.
not on this thursday (if the delivery wasn't arranged by today) or saturday (if lenovo doesn't pay for regular ups saturday pickup).
schedule
if they scheduled the shipment by today, then they could have indeed shipped it tomorrow. i suspect that lenovo doesn't pay for ups saturday pickup.
Coincidently, I called UPS today (Thursday). They were closed.
they are closed for drop offs but not for deliveries.
Yeah, I did receive a UPS package today, yeah. But I wasn't able to send a UPS package.
oh hey, USPS actually delivered my stuff today. the delivery estimate said the 26th so I was bummed, especially because the tracking info said the package was at the post office and they closed at noon.
It's all Jesus' fault...
they tried to deliver UPS today :( but they say it is not too late!
lenovo, you have made me happy! i can pick it up between 7-7:30.
disappointment ... an hour of driving and i have received my laptop case.
huh?
lucas. well. after seen your pics and doing some research today i was 100% set on getting the x200s with the 1440. it was a done deal. then i noticed in your pics you didn't have the camera (thought it was standard). its definitely a no-go for me without the camera. that sucks. I'm only in the states a couple months a year and use skype tons to talk to work and family/friends back here when I'm gone.
oh well. ill just get the x200 with the cam and the 1280 i guess.
oh well. ill just get the x200 with the cam and the 1280 i guess.
x200? :(
get an x200s and mod in your own camera.
get an x200s and mod in your own camera.
you can only get 3mb l2 cache in the x200. you can get 6mb l2 cache in the x200s. :D
well if this is legit then its a done deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ThinkPad-X200-X200s-Camer … 518ea9222d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ThinkPad-X200-X200s-Camer … 518ea9222d
Are you supposed to drill a hole in the casing or something ... ?
thats what i thought when i first saw it but, no thats what this piece is for -- X200 X200s Integrated Camera Lid plate - 1 pcs (New Item)
you can actually see it in the screenshot. can someone with an x200(s) tell if that top peice is a separate piece or if the whole front frame of the monitor is a single piece.
I'm confirming with the guy that it still fits with the WXGA+ monitor on the x200s as there is probably a reason that lenovo doesnt do it.
fingers crossed
you can actually see it in the screenshot. can someone with an x200(s) tell if that top peice is a separate piece or if the whole front frame of the monitor is a single piece.
I'm confirming with the guy that it still fits with the WXGA+ monitor on the x200s as there is probably a reason that lenovo doesnt do it.
fingers crossed
the whole bezel is one entire piece on my x200s with wxga+. i don't see how it would work on mine.
bsdlite has an x200s with wxga, maybe he can tell you if might work on his.
bsdlite has an x200s with wxga, maybe he can tell you if might work on his.
after reading more it wont work anyway. oh well. ill suck up the camera deal. i use just the mic 90% of the time and the cam is nice when you need it. but its not necessary. maybe ill just get some really small usb one and keep it somewhere for the occasions when i need it. worthwhile trade off for the monitor and processor/L2 cache the s provides.
man im glad i got talked into the s series. i didnt even pay attention to it before as i thought it was just low power version. glad i know better now.
man im glad i got talked into the s series. i didnt even pay attention to it before as i thought it was just low power version. glad i know better now.
damn i dont remember ever being so fickle over buy a new laptop. for the last 5 or so years i've walked in bought the 15" MBP and walked out. no questions asked. now with the thinkpad i just cant stop researching. here is where i'm at
i found all three of these at the same price (roughly) and I can't decide what to get.
x301, x200s, t400s -- i have been wanting this t400s forever but now that i can actually buy it im really trying to decide between it and the x200s.
here is the wicked deal on them
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Lenovo-T … t/F56F2689
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Lenovo-T … t/E662CBD4
and then for the x200s i can get everything i want with a $200 off coupon for about the same price as these others.
what to do!
i found all three of these at the same price (roughly) and I can't decide what to get.
x301, x200s, t400s -- i have been wanting this t400s forever but now that i can actually buy it im really trying to decide between it and the x200s.
here is the wicked deal on them
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Lenovo-T … t/F56F2689
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Lenovo-T … t/E662CBD4
and then for the x200s i can get everything i want with a $200 off coupon for about the same price as these others.
what to do!
remember to use www.lenovo.com/cpp (passcode: familyandfriends)
dude i've priced it everyway. that second link i posted for the t400s @ microsoft blows everything away. i priced it even with your code and its $1,580.00
Microsoft is offering $1,161.75 -- ends today.
2801-AQU
I'm buying it right now.
WOOOOOOOT
Microsoft is offering $1,161.75 -- ends today.
2801-AQU
I'm buying it right now.
WOOOOOOOT
got it -- next day air was only 12 bucks.
Lenovo ThinkPad T400s 2801-AQU*
# Subtotal: $1,161.75
# Shipping: $12.00
# Tax: $85.10
# Total: $1,258.85
I can't stand microsoft but ill let them slide for the rest of the year because of this I guess. CANT WAIT
update: just talked to my buddy and hes buying my macbook pro after i get the thinkpad, for $1000. Merry Christmas to me!
Lenovo ThinkPad T400s 2801-AQU*
# Subtotal: $1,161.75
# Shipping: $12.00
# Tax: $85.10
# Total: $1,258.85
I can't stand microsoft but ill let them slide for the rest of the year because of this I guess. CANT WAIT
update: just talked to my buddy and hes buying my macbook pro after i get the thinkpad, for $1000. Merry Christmas to me!
So you got a new T400 for only 258$ \o/ Not a bad deal.
The only "mod" I would do is buy a T61 keyboard on the interwebz and put that in, they are much better ...
The only "mod" I would do is buy a T61 keyboard on the interwebz and put that in, they are much better ...
oh shit, it's a t400s
no wonder it's so expensive
no wonder it's so expensive
dude the displayport and esata really make that laptop for me. i've always hated that the x series doesn't have a digital video out. esata would be nice too for ultra-fast external storage. optical is handy.
ridiculous features include the multi-touch display and the web camera (albeit essential for you).
the x series still beats it on size and battery life. but it's a good compromise.
ridiculous features include the multi-touch display and the web camera (albeit essential for you).
the x series still beats it on size and battery life. but it's a good compromise.
yeah yeah, the S is definitely the key. i wouldnt have got just the 400.
didnt get the multi touch display (only for tablets). but it does have the multi touch-touchpad, which i doubt ill use. i wont use the video out ever, and probably never use the esata. althought the powered usb port is nice. really slim for a t series [1]. more power. same price. the drive sucks though, but i dont care right now. ill put a sata in it if i keep it. ill use it for a bit, if its too big ill get the x200s and sell this one at least for what i bought it (hopefully more). im hoping im just totally sold on it when i get it.
there is just something about the x series. especially now with the widescreen and the fullsize keyboard.
i read some rumors about an x400 in january, but just rumors
[1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/40875865@N07/3836017249/
didnt get the multi touch display (only for tablets). but it does have the multi touch-touchpad, which i doubt ill use. i wont use the video out ever, and probably never use the esata. althought the powered usb port is nice. really slim for a t series [1]. more power. same price. the drive sucks though, but i dont care right now. ill put a sata in it if i keep it. ill use it for a bit, if its too big ill get the x200s and sell this one at least for what i bought it (hopefully more). im hoping im just totally sold on it when i get it.
there is just something about the x series. especially now with the widescreen and the fullsize keyboard.
i read some rumors about an x400 in january, but just rumors
[1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/40875865@N07/3836017249/
do you know what the multi-touch touchpad supports? it looks like they made the touchpad a little bit bigger for it, which is good. the two-finger scrolling on os x is so crucial. I hate having to reach for the keyboard while browsing the web. three-finger back/forward gestures are nice too. and customizable four-finger gestures are slightly useful but not really.
> my new x200s is on the way!
they created the shipment with ups. they're using worldwide express--it will be delivered by noon on the second business day. so i'm getting it on wednesday!
they created the shipment with ups. they're using worldwide express--it will be delivered by noon on the second business day. so i'm getting it on wednesday!
ouch, these are both on an x200s -- not like the other thinkpads ive had
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http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=5cjd6r&s=4
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the lid flex did disappoint me. i cannot easily reproduce the body flex. mine flexes a bit, but a lot of the movement is from the rubber pads compressing.
i think that build quality is right on par with the x60s. there are a couple small oddities, but overall it is very good.
i think that build quality is right on par with the x60s. there are a couple small oddities, but overall it is very good.
ok. i was reading over your other posts again here right before i click the buy button. looks like you weren't stoked when you got it at first. fuckit. i need to quick dicking around and just order the thing. im gonna go buy it now
just got the x200s: my take (caveat: first time tp owner)
issues:
1. screen angles: the top and bottom viewing angles are a little bad but frankly i would not have even noticed them if lucas had not pointed it out.
2. lcd flexibility does worry me a bit. i don't know if too much play in the screen will lead to long term degeneration.
3. the flex in the body is easily reproducible if not as pronounced as what it appears in the videa. it does not concern me.
4. i want to install debian but it does not appear as easy as i had hoped. i need to get this machine working for me today.
pros:
1. the full sized keyboard is fantastic. i mean, really! i have been using compressed keyboards for so long that i forgot that i was even using them.
2. i am so happy never to have to deal with with another fickle touchpad again.
3. some people talked about how the resolution of the screen was too much. i don't find that to be the case at all. i can comfortably sit a normal distance from the screen while the screen is set to normal resolution.
4. i was a little concerned that the stock wireless card would be a little wuss. so far i am surprisingly happy with it.
5. software: i am very happy that the computer didn't come loaded down with usless programs that i would have to spend hours tracking down and removing.
untested virtues:
1. battery life
2. ability to read the screen in daylight. lucas said his screen was uncomfortably bright at the most intense setting. that must be at night because indoors with the sun shining outside the screen does not appear to bright at all. brightest setting seems just right.
issues:
1. screen angles: the top and bottom viewing angles are a little bad but frankly i would not have even noticed them if lucas had not pointed it out.
2. lcd flexibility does worry me a bit. i don't know if too much play in the screen will lead to long term degeneration.
3. the flex in the body is easily reproducible if not as pronounced as what it appears in the videa. it does not concern me.
4. i want to install debian but it does not appear as easy as i had hoped. i need to get this machine working for me today.
pros:
1. the full sized keyboard is fantastic. i mean, really! i have been using compressed keyboards for so long that i forgot that i was even using them.
2. i am so happy never to have to deal with with another fickle touchpad again.
3. some people talked about how the resolution of the screen was too much. i don't find that to be the case at all. i can comfortably sit a normal distance from the screen while the screen is set to normal resolution.
4. i was a little concerned that the stock wireless card would be a little wuss. so far i am surprisingly happy with it.
5. software: i am very happy that the computer didn't come loaded down with usless programs that i would have to spend hours tracking down and removing.
untested virtues:
1. battery life
2. ability to read the screen in daylight. lucas said his screen was uncomfortably bright at the most intense setting. that must be at night because indoors with the sun shining outside the screen does not appear to bright at all. brightest setting seems just right.
when i first purchased mine, i was getting intermittent lockups. although it's hard to be certain, i narrowed the issue down to the battery. so, i called the lenovo help center and they overnighted me a replacement. so far, no freezes: inconclusive, but suggestive. regardless, i am quite impressed and satisfied with the support i received.
one thing i would/will do differently in the future: when ordering a laptop that already boasts long battery life, i won't upgrade the battery. the 9-cell on this thing nearly doubles the weight and changes the form factor in an inconvenient way. i can't recall more than a handful of situations that have occurred in my life where the benefit of having an extra 2 hours of battery life would be anywhere near the cost of toting around those 3 extra cells. however, this is preference and, of course, ymmv.
having said that: i wonder if there's some way to switch my 9-cell for a 6-cell with someone in bozeman.
one thing i would/will do differently in the future: when ordering a laptop that already boasts long battery life, i won't upgrade the battery. the 9-cell on this thing nearly doubles the weight and changes the form factor in an inconvenient way. i can't recall more than a handful of situations that have occurred in my life where the benefit of having an extra 2 hours of battery life would be anywhere near the cost of toting around those 3 extra cells. however, this is preference and, of course, ymmv.
having said that: i wonder if there's some way to switch my 9-cell for a 6-cell with someone in bozeman.
i have been doing some autohotkey cutom keyboard mapping to improve the responsiveness of my x200s. currently i have:
1. control browser forward/back navigating between tabs in firefox
2. alt right sending end and alt left sending home
3. alt up/down sending page up and page down
i don't know what you guys use but i can post my x200s custom layout if you are interested.
1. control browser forward/back navigating between tabs in firefox
2. alt right sending end and alt left sending home
3. alt up/down sending page up and page down
i don't know what you guys use but i can post my x200s custom layout if you are interested.
bsdlite: the added battery life is worth the extra cost, volume, and mass. if i had a 6-cell, i'd gladly trade you.
likewise. this battery is amazing. i am so glad i have it.
fsmart - when you say the viewing angles top and bottom are bad -- you mean when you move up and down?
what about just sitting normally and working on it. is the screen even for normal work?
or anyone with the 1440 screen feel free to answer
what about just sitting normally and working on it. is the screen even for normal work?
or anyone with the 1440 screen feel free to answer
fuck it - i got it - canceled the t400s. the 400s is a better machine, but as much as i travel ill love the 200s. plus the 200s looks fucking awesome. was gonna get 6cell but after reading here i decided on the 9. also, decided to get 3GB as i need to run vmware or virtualbox to do testing with IE from time to time and easier to just let it stay open.
Intel Core2 Duo processor SL9400 (1.86GHz, 6MB L2, 1066MHz FSB)1
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 32
12.1 WXGA+ (1440x900) LED backlight with the Next Generation ThinkPad Roll Cage, 3x3 UltraConnect ll antenna
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
3 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)8
TrackPoint
160GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Intel WiFi Link 5100 (AGN) with My WiFi Technology
ThinkPad X200 Series 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
7465: 1 Year Depot Warranty - TopSeller
Intel Core2 Duo processor SL9400 (1.86GHz, 6MB L2, 1066MHz FSB)1
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 32
12.1 WXGA+ (1440x900) LED backlight with the Next Generation ThinkPad Roll Cage, 3x3 UltraConnect ll antenna
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
3 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)8
TrackPoint
160GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Intel WiFi Link 5100 (AGN) with My WiFi Technology
ThinkPad X200 Series 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
7465: 1 Year Depot Warranty - TopSeller
you should get 4gb ram for dual-channel support.
otherwise, looks good!
otherwise, looks good!
i dont run 64bit, plus i already ordered it. jan 5th delivery it said. are those usually accurate dates they give?
they usually ship before the date.
you can always cancel the order. :)
you can always cancel the order. :)
not this time! i want it in my hands!
> the added battery life is worth the extra cost, volume, and mass.
this is an opinion, masked by assertion
this is an opinion, masked by assertion
yeah--just my opinion. sorry i didn't make that clear.
oh come on, only the densest person in the world could read that as an objective assertion.
so microsoft screwed up and didnt cancel my order for the t400s even though they gave me a cancellation number.
its sitting in my living room. im thinking of just canceling my x200s and just keeping this.
i think its a sign. the t400s is a better machine, i just love the size of the x200s.
FUCK decisions.
its sitting in my living room. im thinking of just canceling my x200s and just keeping this.
i think its a sign. the t400s is a better machine, i just love the size of the x200s.
FUCK decisions.
hahaha. good luck.
ok so i opened it. its fucking rad. and super light. way lighter than my macbook pro 13.
although it wont let me create the recovery disks. says the required files cant be found
although it wont let me create the recovery disks. says the required files cant be found
it's MS's doing.
nice decision. :)
well the t400 looks pretty damn sweet. if you don't highly value the extra battery life than the difference in weight between the x200s with the 9-cell and the t400 is only .6 lb. plus you get an optical drive and the additional power. the only thing that you might want that you are not getting is the bigger hard drive and the extended warranty. but hard drives are cheap and i am sure you could purchase the extended warranty if you wanted it.
t400s. the t400 is fairly wuss.
loving the machine. threw on ubuntu just to see the newest version. every single thing works perfect out of the box. im surprised.
i called ibm and they are shipping me the restore disks. only thing that sucks is I will have to keep a copy of windows on here for torchlight. i tried it under wine and it runs but its just too slow. speaking of which, if anyone liked diablo or diablo2, torchlight is rad.
im loving this screen.
i called ibm and they are shipping me the restore disks. only thing that sucks is I will have to keep a copy of windows on here for torchlight. i tried it under wine and it runs but its just too slow. speaking of which, if anyone liked diablo or diablo2, torchlight is rad.
im loving this screen.
just took out my thinkpad to install ubuntu before selling it. I love the hardware :(.
did IBM charge you for the system restore disks?
no. after i told them i had just opened it tried to create them they said they would send them out free
how do you guys feel about not having an optical drive? I kind of want an x201.
i hate optical drives. but i'd like to play dvds occasionally. for that, there are plenty of very nice external usb dvd drives.
^ I'm with lucas. On my T61 I have a hard drive bay adapter most of the time ... But I play DVD movies sometimes ...
I kind of hate optical drives too, and wish they would go away, but they're still convenient for stuff like playing DVDs, installing operating systems, ripping music, etc.
granted we are moving away from physical media to streaming stuff, I don't install operating systems all that often, and I don't think I've ripped a cd for over a year.
the lack of one still irks me because I am imagining being in a situation, however unlikely, where one would be beneficial to have and I am away from home without an external one. plus I just hate superfluous external peripherals. for this stupid reason, I think I like the x301 better.
not to mention the 1440x900 res :).
granted we are moving away from physical media to streaming stuff, I don't install operating systems all that often, and I don't think I've ripped a cd for over a year.
the lack of one still irks me because I am imagining being in a situation, however unlikely, where one would be beneficial to have and I am away from home without an external one. plus I just hate superfluous external peripherals. for this stupid reason, I think I like the x301 better.
not to mention the 1440x900 res :).
i have a desktop, an optical drive on a laptop is not needed. make isos if needed, otherwise all media is compressed.
add me to this thread in approximately four days.
what are you getting?
edit: oh, an x301.
edit: oh, an x301.
Still rocking a 2006 x60 with no battery. yeah!
hey lucas, add me to the list!
I just ordered a 6-cell battery for my x301. 3-cell + shitty power management by ubuntu = awful battery life.
I just ordered a 6-cell battery for my x301. 3-cell + shitty power management by ubuntu = awful battery life.
i am on this list as well as i bought an x60 on the advice of ttf members :)
I have an ideabook s10. Not a thinkpad. But in the same family tree.
> I have an ideabook s10.
Boo!
Boo!
isn't it called an ideapad?
three and a half hours estimated time left on this 6-cell!
> isn't it called an ideapad?
epiphanypad
NO THINKING INVOLVED
epiphanypad
NO THINKING INVOLVED
Psh. Weak.
Psh. Weak.
I really love this x301.
^ This week, next week you're going to hate it again and are wishing for a mbp again ;-)
dont worry asemi. i do that every other week too
my mbp is still on my desk :). the only positive things about the mbp are the trackpad and the battery life. otherwise the thinkpad has it beat on the keyboard, screen resolution, and weight/size. I hate computers.
mbp wins on battery life?! are you sure?
os x vs. ubuntu, os x wins for sure. maybe if I put windows on the x301 it would last longer.
I wouldn't subject adolf hitler to os x.
Me either ... or Ubuntu.
apple itself is definitely sucking but osx is still the best option.
windows is crap. linux is garbage. openbsd rules but hardware support and some modern features to use as a real desktop are missing.
osx you get decent consistent interface (albiet shitty keyboard control, but im always in emacs anyway), good third party apps, great for development in pretty much anything, stable, quick enough, use most unix tools, etc. its not amazing but its the best option available for me right now really. obviously depends on what you use your computer to do. whats better than that? linux is just getting dumber for the lowest common denominator. whats a real nerd supposed to use these days?
windows is crap. linux is garbage. openbsd rules but hardware support and some modern features to use as a real desktop are missing.
osx you get decent consistent interface (albiet shitty keyboard control, but im always in emacs anyway), good third party apps, great for development in pretty much anything, stable, quick enough, use most unix tools, etc. its not amazing but its the best option available for me right now really. obviously depends on what you use your computer to do. whats better than that? linux is just getting dumber for the lowest common denominator. whats a real nerd supposed to use these days?
> quick enough
:p
has it gotten better?
:p
has it gotten better?
well i say quick enough. i dont ever have to wait on it. but i usually only use emacs, safari (for normal browsing), firefox (development and getting around chinese firewall via ssh proxy), skype and itunes. sometimes terminal but i usually just use `shell` in emacs. random photoshop startup as well (should use something way lighter for the stuff i do). so i could probably do my work on a 1ghz pentium. i basically just browse and code.
thats about it - i dont play games on here (although i did start playing games again in china - for another post though).
i have the cheapest macbook pro 13". 2gb ram. runs perfect. long battery and the absolute best suspend/resume ive ever used (and has always been the case with my macbooks, probably had 10 or so), which i use about 30 times a day.
with all that said. i do miss mpd, tiling window managers, real package management, and all the fiddly bits of a real unix.
thats about it - i dont play games on here (although i did start playing games again in china - for another post though).
i have the cheapest macbook pro 13". 2gb ram. runs perfect. long battery and the absolute best suspend/resume ive ever used (and has always been the case with my macbooks, probably had 10 or so), which i use about 30 times a day.
with all that said. i do miss mpd, tiling window managers, real package management, and all the fiddly bits of a real unix.
i would love an x200 or something like that but only windows supports it worth a shit and i couldn't handle that.
does anyone run unix here anymore on a decent laptop? being in the home of lenovo (same city as me) i figured i could get an x61s somewhere but they seem to only have the newest shit here. i dont really like any other laptops than lenovo and mac anymore, but i havent been looking i guess.
does anyone run unix here anymore on a decent laptop? being in the home of lenovo (same city as me) i figured i could get an x61s somewhere but they seem to only have the newest shit here. i dont really like any other laptops than lenovo and mac anymore, but i havent been looking i guess.
I have had operating system indecision lately too. I'm very happy with ubuntu, but I want to use something other than gnome, like wmii or openbox. I tried debian but the docs were so awful I couldn't handle it. I would try gentoo but I like binary package management too much. so I'm just sticking with ubuntu/gnome for now. it works great on my x301. I don't think anything is flaky or weird at all. sleep/suspend works great, battery life is passable, etc.
I would use a bsd if I could, but I can't really live without flash support for watching tv shows on the web and stuff.
I wouldn't mind using os x again, but my macbook feels like it weighs a hundred pounds after getting used to the x301, and the keyboard feels absolutely awful.
I'd like to use a linux distro that is functionally equivalent to ubuntu (full hardware support) but without all the pre-installed software, because I don't use well over half of it. all I really need in the way of gui applications is a web browser. for im and email I've been using irssi and mutt, and I'm very happy with both of them.
I would use a bsd if I could, but I can't really live without flash support for watching tv shows on the web and stuff.
I wouldn't mind using os x again, but my macbook feels like it weighs a hundred pounds after getting used to the x301, and the keyboard feels absolutely awful.
I'd like to use a linux distro that is functionally equivalent to ubuntu (full hardware support) but without all the pre-installed software, because I don't use well over half of it. all I really need in the way of gui applications is a web browser. for im and email I've been using irssi and mutt, and I'm very happy with both of them.
nice to hear about the x301. anything that doesnt work on it? anything you wish was better or are you totally satisfied with it?
try archlinux. i think it fully supports the 301 without much work. spend a few hours setting it up as opposed to none on ubuntu, but you dont get all the shit with it.
try archlinux. i think it fully supports the 301 without much work. spend a few hours setting it up as opposed to none on ubuntu, but you dont get all the shit with it.
ok -- i think im coming back. i almost bought one about 10 minutes ago but decided to do a bit more research
im in china so the models are a bit different but here is what it is
x201i (the i is for the i3 chip not the i5 -- big savings but i dont really have a choice if i wanted i5)
2gb
250gb
everything else pretty standard. have a choice between one with a 2mp camera or one with bluetooth (or one with both and a bigger HD and fingerprint reader for way more money).
i think ill do the camera one since i talk with people back home a ton. only bluetooth thing i have is a mouse and i can always get a little usb bt thing if i want it.
its like exactly $1000 US -- thats after haggling a bunch. thats more expensive than back home by quite a bit i think. but with the savings of going from i5 to i3 its about the same i think (could be wrong) but i dont use lots of processor power anyway.
also, for about the same price i could get the x200 that has the BT and Camera, Mem & HD is the same, but the other processor. figure ill just get the x201i because its newer.
anyone running linux/bsd on an x200/201 as their full time machine? anything i should know?
im in china so the models are a bit different but here is what it is
x201i (the i is for the i3 chip not the i5 -- big savings but i dont really have a choice if i wanted i5)
2gb
250gb
everything else pretty standard. have a choice between one with a 2mp camera or one with bluetooth (or one with both and a bigger HD and fingerprint reader for way more money).
i think ill do the camera one since i talk with people back home a ton. only bluetooth thing i have is a mouse and i can always get a little usb bt thing if i want it.
its like exactly $1000 US -- thats after haggling a bunch. thats more expensive than back home by quite a bit i think. but with the savings of going from i5 to i3 its about the same i think (could be wrong) but i dont use lots of processor power anyway.
also, for about the same price i could get the x200 that has the BT and Camera, Mem & HD is the same, but the other processor. figure ill just get the x201i because its newer.
anyone running linux/bsd on an x200/201 as their full time machine? anything i should know?
i dunno but i'd love to hear reports on the x200... I loved the design. Very tempted to drop coin on it.
I would have said the battery life before I got a 6-cell, but now it's fine. so yeah, totally satisfied. the touchpad could be better, actually, but nothing I've seen comes close to an apple touchpad, so oh well.
I might try arch. using xubuntu now.
I might try arch. using xubuntu now.
buying mine first thing in the morning. tried to buy it tonight but they didnt have it in stock. have it early AM.
cant wait -- its a x201i 3249 J3C (cant find anything on it on the internet, chinese model i guess) I believe. Has all the shit on it. Some one wanted to buy my macbook pro 13 today too so that will offset the cost. just gonna throw arch on there.
yeah arch takes longer to setup but if its your main system then its worth it obviously. they have nice wiki and forums as well.
cant wait -- its a x201i 3249 J3C (cant find anything on it on the internet, chinese model i guess) I believe. Has all the shit on it. Some one wanted to buy my macbook pro 13 today too so that will offset the cost. just gonna throw arch on there.
yeah arch takes longer to setup but if its your main system then its worth it obviously. they have nice wiki and forums as well.
rejoined the army....
ThinkPad X201i 3249-J3C
i3-330M(2.13GHz)
2GB RAM
320GB 5400rpm HD
12.1in 1280x800 LCD
Intel HD graphics
Intel 802.11bgn wireless
WWAN option
Bluetooth
Modem
1Gb Ether
UltraNav
Sec Chip
FingerPrintReader
Camera
6c Li-Ion
Win7
Creating Factory Restore disks but trying to use a partition on my external HD. If that works I'll be pumpeed. Then blowing out Windows and installing Arch.
Nice to be back
ThinkPad X201i 3249-J3C
i3-330M(2.13GHz)
2GB RAM
320GB 5400rpm HD
12.1in 1280x800 LCD
Intel HD graphics
Intel 802.11bgn wireless
WWAN option
Bluetooth
Modem
1Gb Ether
UltraNav
Sec Chip
FingerPrintReader
Camera
6c Li-Ion
Win7
Creating Factory Restore disks but trying to use a partition on my external HD. If that works I'll be pumpeed. Then blowing out Windows and installing Arch.
Nice to be back
man you guys make me jealous.
does the x201 have a 9 cell available? i might buy one of these laptops.
yeah i think so. my x201i is a bit different than the x201 im finding. different wireless nic. etc
well looks like the openbsd support for acpi is getting better (can suspend/resume on some thinkpads and others -- with a bit of tweaking i think). once i figure out how to get openbsd installed on here ill do it.
have 2 new flash drives (4gb and 8gb) -- both chinese bullshit. both are new and both are fucked. awesome. i need an external cd drive but i dont want to buy one as i use it maybe two times a year. also something else to have to travel with.
still got my mac, wonder if i can netboot the installer or something with it. also sidenote. was playing with freebsd yesterday. wouldnt install. halts on boot, in normal/noacpi/safemode boot styles. i think i can just change the sata/legacy in the bios but i was too lazy with a massive hangover.
have 2 new flash drives (4gb and 8gb) -- both chinese bullshit. both are new and both are fucked. awesome. i need an external cd drive but i dont want to buy one as i use it maybe two times a year. also something else to have to travel with.
still got my mac, wonder if i can netboot the installer or something with it. also sidenote. was playing with freebsd yesterday. wouldnt install. halts on boot, in normal/noacpi/safemode boot styles. i think i can just change the sata/legacy in the bios but i was too lazy with a massive hangover.
> well looks like the openbsd support for acpi is getting better (can suspend/resume on some thinkpads and others -- with a bit of tweaking i think).
If by tweaking you mean running apmd, then yeah.
If by tweaking you mean running apmd, then yeah.
no i mean people talking about having to recompile X sometimes for it to actually resume with X (on the x200/1's) and other little shit for the other laptops.
Bought an external IBM DVD player from down the street here. Of course it didnt work. Its a little annoying knowing that when you buy something here, no matter what it is, there is a 50/50 shot that it will even work.
I even replaced one of my flash drives with another one. fucked up on first use. nice.
I even replaced one of my flash drives with another one. fucked up on first use. nice.
I love this thinkpad keyboard so fucking much.
heh that's why i have a usb thinkpad keyboard =P
You like it? I can *finally* order it in the Netherlands with reasonable shipping rates.
the speakers and mic on this thinkpad suck ass btw.
i'm going to be pissed if the successor to the x201 doesn't have digital video output (e.g., dvi, displayport.
laptops that work with my 30 inch == 0 thus far that I have owned... even the ones that claim to be capable.
> the successor to the x201
i want this
i want this
x301 is still going strong
are those in production any longer?
I don't think so. they were kind of short-lived, it seems. the cpu is a bit out of date but I still love it.
they even cut the x201s. i don't what the hell lenovo is doing.
more than 4 years since I got my x60 (and joined ttf)
r1: and it's still going strong. I may wipe and run the reinstall on the utility drive though.
r1: and it's still going strong. I may wipe and run the reinstall on the utility drive though.
In an article in the Seattle Times recently about smart, web-savvy college grads trying to find decent jobs, they featured a photo of a guy walking across his bed in socks with his computer somewhat blurred out on the comforter next to his feet. Even with the blur, you could tell it was a thinkpad!
I had to dig really far for this thread, but no one seems to have made a buzz about the X1, it looks so sexy and I want one... Good idea bad idea? has lenovo lost their edge? are they no longer cool?
I like everything about the X1 except the resolution. I'd rather have a Sony Vaio Z.
*Gasp* What happend to the keyboard?
for some reason i'm thinking about a new X but my x60 is still chugging along
same
not mine :( icarus is dead, too ambitious it seems. stricken down from the heat.
the fan is out and so is the power brick. it might still work otherwise. anyone want parts?
lcd, wifi, keyboard are still good. i was planning on selling it for $20 or something at this local repair shop.
the fan is out and so is the power brick. it might still work otherwise. anyone want parts?
lcd, wifi, keyboard are still good. i was planning on selling it for $20 or something at this local repair shop.
that's the x60s. its twin was in the hands of djb, the last i knew. maybe he would be interested.
for the record, I really love my thinklight
I would, too
issues, but to be resolved shortly.
My friend at work gave me shit for 20 minutes today for continuing to use my busted ass ideapad gen 1 netbook as my primary laptop.
work just gave me a T400
i got an x61 tablet on ebay for 100 USD. using it as my "throw away" laptop. great for crossing international borders, going to scary hacker conferences and plugging in without remorse, and otherwise being a machine that i won't feel bad about having to throw into the bay should I have to savage a hobo with it.
sweet.
How good it the new X220 ? My R51's LCD is dying. Thinking about getting the X220 when my wife comes back from US. The linux hardware support is not so good atm (except maybe for ubuntu). But hoping that things will smooth out by the end of this year.
the new x220 looks retarded... i mean cosmetically they are the worst looking thinkpads in 20 years.
> the new x220 looks retarded... i mean cosmetically they are the worst looking thinkpads in 20 years.
In what way? It looks like any other thinkpad as far as I can see. Which may be a good or bad thing depending on your taste. I consider it to be good.
I dislike the mousepad ... But that's about it ...
In what way? It looks like any other thinkpad as far as I can see. Which may be a good or bad thing depending on your taste. I consider it to be good.
I dislike the mousepad ... But that's about it ...
25 cell battery :o
nny are you talking about the x1?
i hate the gorilla glass shit. thinkpads. have. gone. glossy.
some other wtf points:
island keys
keyboard backlighting
i hate the gorilla glass shit. thinkpads. have. gone. glossy.
some other wtf points:
island keys
keyboard backlighting
the chiclet keys are so gross. everyone who has ever typed on my x301's keyboard has commented on how nice it is. fucking apple; did they start this shit? is it cheaper to manufacture? what's the deal? anyway, as long as they keep making classic-style thinkpads I'll stay enlisted.
yeah the chicklet keys are fucking horrid.
but no i mean the x220
it's fucking ugly as hell. it looks like some apple UI fuckwad tried to reimagine the thinkpad. And instead of the cyberpunk electrical junction box fusion that I love they came out with some sort of fucked up fischer price bullshit.
Fuck that noise. Ono Sendai Cyberspace 7 for life fuckers!
but no i mean the x220
it's fucking ugly as hell. it looks like some apple UI fuckwad tried to reimagine the thinkpad. And instead of the cyberpunk electrical junction box fusion that I love they came out with some sort of fucked up fischer price bullshit.
Fuck that noise. Ono Sendai Cyberspace 7 for life fuckers!
Yeah. Apple fuckwads. It's always the Apple fuckwads.
the x220 doesn't look that different. i think the x1 got reamed by a team of apple wannabes.
Apple did 9/11
this thread is getting militant, i approve.
hahaha
Geez, buncha apple haters up in hurr
I used my work issued apple laptop for the first time in nearly a year yesterday... I used it to protect some papers I was riding home with.
True story.
True story.
hahahaha!
Okay, I'm going to admit this. I love Thinkpads, but good god they're too expensive.
Okay, I'm going to admit this. I love Thinkpads, but good god they're too expensive.
but they last forever!
If you can't afford one to begin with, their longevity is irrelevant.
even with the education discount and an extra coupon?
If that made a big enough difference, would I still be using an eeePC? :p
i guess not
fwiw, i just built an x220 for $805 using an education discount without a coupon. an extra 15% off coupon might come out sometime, bringing that down to $684.
fwiw, i just built an x220 for $805 using an education discount without a coupon. an extra 15% off coupon might come out sometime, bringing that down to $684.
Honestly, if my financial situation was better I probably wouldn't mind spending that much money. With a bunch of discounts it's not awful, but spending $700 on a laptop just blows my mind.
no doubt it's a big purchase
Thinkpad tabet:
http://shop.lenovo.com/gbweb/gb/en/learn/prod … /thinkpad/
http://shop.lenovo.com/gbweb/gb/en/learn/prod … /thinkpad/
just popping in to tell everyone how much I love my thinkpad. I've spilled a good amount of liquid (wine) on this thing and I'm not worried about it at all.
Thew biggest problem that you'll have is that the wine will get sticky and messy under your keys. That's the problem I had with my keyboard after I spilled coffee ...
that membrane/thing under the keyboard seems pretty sticky to begin with. I had trouble getting crumbs and junk off of it when I took the whole keyboard apart a while ago. anyway, it's easy enough to replace if it gets that bad.
I think I'm going to have this same laptop for a lot of years to come. 1440x900 on a 13.3" screen and less than an inch thick? yes please.
I think I'm going to have this same laptop for a lot of years to come. 1440x900 on a 13.3" screen and less than an inch thick? yes please.
:-)
I ordered a new keyboard for my T61 by the way, I had two keys missing (My own fault).
I ordered a new keyboard for my T61 by the way, I had two keys missing (My own fault).
heh been using my hundred dollar x61 as my primary for a bit. fast little bugger.
Planning to buy an X220 as my R51's LCD is dying. Lucas, how's the x220 ?
Was thinking about a 420S.
DO IT
the x200s is great as it is.
i'd love to get an x220 because it has these exceptional differences:
- ips display
- display port and vga port
i'd love to get an x220 because it has these exceptional differences:
- ips display
- display port and vga port
fuck it. i bought an x220. student pricing with a black friday coupon:
ThinkPad X220
Intel Core i5-2520M Processor (2.5GHz, 3MB L3, 1333MHz FSB)
12.5" (1366x768) IPS LED Backlit Display
4 GB DDR3 - 1333MHz (1 DIMM)
720p HD Camera
320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
ThinkPad Battery 29++ (9 cell)
Bluetooth 3.0
ThinkPad b/g/n
3YR Onsite Warranty Upgrade
$923 total
typically, i simply choose the least expensive processor available for the model. this time, i chose the i5-520M because it was the least expensive with all of the features (vPro, VT-d, Trusted Execution, AES New Instructions). i skipped the SSD upgrade because i'll do it myself with a better drive for less money, naturally. based on my thinkpad experiences (6 years and counting), i think a 3 year warranty is optimal for me. on-site 3 year only cost $5 more than depot 3 year.
now, if anyone wants to buy my x200s for $400 at the end of the year--let me know! i need to get a bit more warranty work done on it first.
ThinkPad X220
Intel Core i5-2520M Processor (2.5GHz, 3MB L3, 1333MHz FSB)
12.5" (1366x768) IPS LED Backlit Display
4 GB DDR3 - 1333MHz (1 DIMM)
720p HD Camera
320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
ThinkPad Battery 29++ (9 cell)
Bluetooth 3.0
ThinkPad b/g/n
3YR Onsite Warranty Upgrade
$923 total
typically, i simply choose the least expensive processor available for the model. this time, i chose the i5-520M because it was the least expensive with all of the features (vPro, VT-d, Trusted Execution, AES New Instructions). i skipped the SSD upgrade because i'll do it myself with a better drive for less money, naturally. based on my thinkpad experiences (6 years and counting), i think a 3 year warranty is optimal for me. on-site 3 year only cost $5 more than depot 3 year.
now, if anyone wants to buy my x200s for $400 at the end of the year--let me know! i need to get a bit more warranty work done on it first.
what are the specs? my x60 is getting a little crusty. it overheats. think i have the dreaded dust-filled interior.
> it overheats. think i have the dreaded dust-filled interior.
Just blow into the grill.
Just blow into the grill.
what other specs do you want? the tech spec pdf is here.
today is the last day of the black friday sale. maybe you should hit it up.
today is the last day of the black friday sale. maybe you should hit it up.
i don't need to buy new, although the used laptop market might be a market for lemons.
I've had good luck buying used from smallish sellers on eBay.
here is what i have, nestor. i'd ask about $400, which seems about average on ebay.
mine is in great condition. i just need lenovo to give me a new lcd (again--this one has a 2x3 pixel area of slight darkness) and a new hinge (i tried to tighten it and the fucking screw head came off). otherwise, it's in great shape. it has a relatively new keyboard (i broke a key cleaning the old one) and motherboard (the old fan was dying, and they replaced the whole unit), as well.
mine is in great condition. i just need lenovo to give me a new lcd (again--this one has a 2x3 pixel area of slight darkness) and a new hinge (i tried to tighten it and the fucking screw head came off). otherwise, it's in great shape. it has a relatively new keyboard (i broke a key cleaning the old one) and motherboard (the old fan was dying, and they replaced the whole unit), as well.
i got the x220 today. i added the intel 311 20gb ssd msata card. i installed windows xp kn x86 on the 20gb ssd. i'll use the 320gb hitachi hdd for media. this configuration boots fast and also has a huge hdd. win-win?
Ordered X220! :)
AWESOME. i love mine!
i guess i'll probably give my x200s to my mom.
someday I will buy a t420s.
lr / bsd > got the e-mail, i'm interested to buy and willing to pay a moderate premium to market prices because i trust your description of condition more. bsd, could you shoot me a quick description of condition / why you want to sell / any issues?
in case you don't read it here i'll reply to the e-mail when i get out of work tonight
in case you don't read it here i'll reply to the e-mail when i get out of work tonight
has anybody tried to do the maximum battery setting on the x220? it claims to be able to have a battery life of up to 23 hours. my x200s seems to max out at 5 hours with moderate usage and up to 8 hours with screen maximally dimmed and wireless off.
no, but i get about 10 hours with the screen half-dimmed and wifi on and bluetooth on.
the bezel around my screen has two cracks in it now :(. and my stupid trackpad buttons don't/barely work. I've gotten so used to using the trackpad for mousing and the trackpoint buttons above it for clicking that I barely notice though. index finger on the trackpad and middle finger to click. it works quite well actually.
:/
still happy, overall?
still happy, overall?
absolutely. it's been almost two years and I am confident it will be at least few more before I replace it, hopefully with a t4**s.
i am very happy with my x200s. it is two years now and my battery life is still great, no problems with my system despite a toss-in-the-backpack-and-run lifestyle in which i almost never go anywhere without my laptop. i keep looking into upgrading my system especially because i have an annual budget of $1000 for equipment from my job, yet my x200s does not seem much worse than the x220 except that the x220 is much less expensive than the $1250 I originally spent on the x200.
if you didn't see the specs on the x220 i bought, look here.
i think the resolution is lower than your x220s, but the screen has great viewing angles and color reproduction. computing power is better, battery life is approximately the same, it keeps the vga output but adds a displayport (digital) output.
the addition of the touchpad is nice for when other people want to use your laptop.
i think the resolution is lower than your x220s, but the screen has great viewing angles and color reproduction. computing power is better, battery life is approximately the same, it keeps the vga output but adds a displayport (digital) output.
the addition of the touchpad is nice for when other people want to use your laptop.
>the addition of the touchpad is nice for when other people want to use your laptop.
:)
i just can't imagine turning in my x200s for a slightly faster x200 with a touchpad with a lower resolution. already i almost entirely use remote desktop with much faster computers for all of my data processing needs. the screen on the x200s has never bothered me.
:)
i just can't imagine turning in my x200s for a slightly faster x200 with a touchpad with a lower resolution. already i almost entirely use remote desktop with much faster computers for all of my data processing needs. the screen on the x200s has never bothered me.
i think better viewing angles is a difference you appreciate after you have it. but yeah, loss of resolution is a bummer.
encoding video on this x301 is making me want a t420s. they're only ~$975 right now on lenovo.com...somehow cheaper than some of the refurbished ones on the outlet. agh.
i was looking at x220 (refurbished and new) on ebay and they are all WAY more expensive than new x220 from lenovo site. bizarre.
heh. I got my new gig to buy me one with ssd and lots of ram. it's not a bad machine... but it's not a thinkpad. It's too damned weak. They need to go back to making thinkpads.
Waiting for an Ivy Bridge refresh.
Damn T430s has a chiclet style keyboard :(
I'd like to try one of these lenovo chiclet keyboards.
ew
Yes I am seriously thinking about just going to Sandy bridge and getting a 420s just because of the keyboard.
fuck that chiclet bullshit.
windows 7 BSODed so I wiped it and installed fedora. I'm regretting it a little bit.
Naw it's cool. :)
gnome3 just kinda sucks. it's kind of nice in ways. the workspace/desktop management is pretty good. but there is like zero configurability via the GUI. and the integrated messaging is confusing and sucks shit (surprise!).
and what is with these half-assed contacts and "documents" apps? they look like they were designed for tablets.
Apple has won me over away from Lenovo again. :(
one of my favorite things to do with my thinkpad is carry it by the top of the lcd. the weight is quite comfortable. try that with your macbook.
*All* of the latest thinkpad models have an *unacceptable* keyboard layout.
Why? Please for fucks sake, WHY? do all laptop keyboard need to have fucked up layouts? It pissed me off that the entire world is so broken.
Why? Please for fucks sake, WHY? do all laptop keyboard need to have fucked up layouts? It pissed me off that the entire world is so broken.
what's wrong with them?
Fucking chiclets. I'm going Apple. Fuck all you IBM diehard fans. I was *this* close to buying a Thinkpad. But noooo, fucking Ivy Bridge refresh and shitty display was the key factor in turning me away.
Edit: I've simmered down a bit. That should have read a shitty display and chiclet keyboard turned me away. Ivy Bridge is good.
Edit: I've simmered down a bit. That should have read a shitty display and chiclet keyboard turned me away. Ivy Bridge is good.
fucking lenovo.
my mom just got a new thinkpad edge e530. it feels pretty cheap (it was under $500). the chiclet keyboard also feels pretty cheap. the only notable improvement is the two-finger scrolling. otherwise the giant-button trackpad is pretty shitty.
lenovo is making macbook pros now:
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=457&Code=437524U
Nice. I'd love it in pink!
"The island-style keyboard keeps keys firmly in place."
What nonsense is this?
What nonsense is this?
my colleagues think that mbp chiclet keyboards are the best keyboards. i don't understand it.
I'll say it again: everyone who has ever typed on my thinkpad has commented positively upon the keyboard. I'd like to try another chiclet keyboard on a thinkpad (maybe the t series ones are OK??), but probably less than 1% of me thinks I'll prefer it or even consider it equivalent.
when you get used to the mbp chiclets you can type pretty quickly on them, but I find it extremely uncomfortable to do so. I feel like I have to contort my hands in some unnatural way to pose them correctly over the keyboard. I guess it probably also matters whether you touch type. relatedly, the awful keyboards apple sells for desktops now are the worst (very similar to mbp).
I need to order a replacement keyboard for my x301. a few keys are missing those little tabs now and tend to rock back and forth (escape and \, so it's not unbearable unless I'm typing a lot of unc paths or using vim). plus it's a little bit gross.
when you get used to the mbp chiclets you can type pretty quickly on them, but I find it extremely uncomfortable to do so. I feel like I have to contort my hands in some unnatural way to pose them correctly over the keyboard. I guess it probably also matters whether you touch type. relatedly, the awful keyboards apple sells for desktops now are the worst (very similar to mbp).
I need to order a replacement keyboard for my x301. a few keys are missing those little tabs now and tend to rock back and forth (escape and \, so it's not unbearable unless I'm typing a lot of unc paths or using vim). plus it's a little bit gross.
tp army - any commentary on the latest models? build quality still decent (absent chiclets)? my x60 is still hanging on, just looking for advice for a friend of mine.
The x220 is a solid unit. Got nothing beyond that.
I'm not sure either. I've been wanting a faster machine, but I can't really justify spending the money right now.
same as nny, here. i love my x220, but i haven't handled anything beyond that.
do you think the build quality of the x220 is inferior to the x60 or on par?
on par.
I think the x220 is not as strong a laptop... but it is a beast.
nice. i might try to pick one up then.
go ssd and go big on ram. also the extended battery is nice.
i put these in my x220:
intel 311 msata 20gb slc ssd ($120 on newegg) [os drive]
sandisk extreme 2.5" sata 240gb mlc ssd ($190 on newegg) [programs, data]
solid combo.
intel 311 msata 20gb slc ssd ($120 on newegg) [os drive]
sandisk extreme 2.5" sata 240gb mlc ssd ($190 on newegg) [programs, data]
solid combo.
it sounds like we all have almost identical setups. x301 with 8 gb of ram and an ssd and a 6-cell battery (which is actually great because with the 3-cell the laptop has that stupid tapered look of a netbook that's half battery).
yup.
just ordered x230t i5-3320M, looked like getting the tablet option would only cost an extra $200. will swap out the hard drive for my ssd most likely when it arrives.
sweet. let us know how you like the new keyboard!
still sad about that new keyboard. I have a feeling my upgrade in a couple of years will be an x220. maybe one of you will sell me yours :).
also I was just rereading this thread and I was overcome with love for my thinkpad. it will be our three-year anniversary in march. I think I have a problem.
yeah fuck chiclet keys.
yeah, basically three years with the ol x200s. by far, best darn laptop i ever had :D
I hope that Lenovo will release a high res display.
high res? i think the x230, if you select premium display, the description reads: "FHD/Premium – Indicates 1900x1080 maximum resolution display". i am not sure if I could handle a 12.5" screen with that much resolution.
Fsmart: Where can you get that x230? Not from Lenovo, it seems.
maybe I am misreading something with the display.
anyways, right now I am annoyed with lenovo for setting my shipping date back a week. now my computer is flying to a different state then the one I will be located in. in addition, the sales department is completely useless.
anyways, right now I am annoyed with lenovo for setting my shipping date back a week. now my computer is flying to a different state then the one I will be located in. in addition, the sales department is completely useless.
230 looks to be the new rev of the 220.
tempted to buy a 220 off ebay. i have one for work, but i have an x60 at home that is showing it's age. would be good to have a 220 around the house.
i was liking the chiclet keyboard until i accidently spilled water on it. now i am waiting and hoping. it does not seem to be as water resistant as i was expecting at all.
no fluid drain? :[
has a fluid drain but the keyboard is locking up. i have disconnected the battery and going to leave it to dry till tomorrow
got an x220 4286 model, with core i7 on ebay for 500. swapping ram to 2x 8gb for 60 bucks. hopefully get a sizeable SSD for xmas.
nice!
nny > can you link to the ebay sale? what was the condition? i'm probably going to get one in 2013, just want to have the data point in mind when looking.
this was a one off from some guy in huntington beach CA. turned out to be in perfect condition with an extended cell battery also in perfect condition. Which was an unexpected bonus. I would consider this to be an exceptional luck find on ebay in that regard.
but i could find out he re-upped to the new model during black friday sales... his browser history showed that.
=P
the x220 was just supplanted by the x230... so the 220s are showing up cheap like but still solid machines.
but i could find out he re-upped to the new model during black friday sales... his browser history showed that.
=P
the x220 was just supplanted by the x230... so the 220s are showing up cheap like but still solid machines.
I'm going to cave I think. T430s is available for 800 flat with my employee discount. I Think I'm gonna hop on it. Goodbye good display and discrete GPU.
I caved. I'll post an unboxing video when I get it.
so the x220 i got off ebay is core i7.
i upped the ram to 16 gb.
i upped the hdd to ssd 240 gb ( intel ).
i upped the ram to 16 gb.
i upped the hdd to ssd 240 gb ( intel ).
can I buy that from you in like a year?
or longer.
fuck, that is awesome. nice work, nny.
I was looking at the X220 but that res is just not for me. If I had no need to consider the res, I would have definitely hopped on that.
fair enough.
I got my T430s. The display is shit but the build is great. I think I may have fried it though with some shitty RAM DIMMS. The laptop registers when it's charging, but if I hit power, nothing happens. I have some RAM coming in today. Hopefully that will solve it. If not ... RMA time. :(
I thought ttf might appreciate my torn down x301
the fan started making an awful high pitched whine and using compressed air just made it stop working altogether until I gave it a little push. so I replaced it with a refurbished one from ebay. it is a real wonderful thing to take apart, and I barely looked at the directions. it's probably running a bit cooler now with some fresh thermal paste too. hooray for thinkpads!
the fan started making an awful high pitched whine and using compressed air just made it stop working altogether until I gave it a little push. so I replaced it with a refurbished one from ebay. it is a real wonderful thing to take apart, and I barely looked at the directions. it's probably running a bit cooler now with some fresh thermal paste too. hooray for thinkpads!
Hah, I like how you arranged the screws :)
i do appreciate it
I'm glad!
it seems that the trackpoint driver (ThinkPad Synaptics) was causing my BSODs on resume from suspend.
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini100213-03.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
Symbol search path is: D:\WINDOWS_Symbols
Executable search path is:
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 3) MP (4 procs) Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0x804d7000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x8055d720
Debug session time: Wed Oct 2 19:25:16.250 2013 (UTC - 7:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 8:33:27.198
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
...............................................................
..............................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.................
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************
Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
BugCheck C2, {7, cd4, 2020001, 89d6c6a8}
Unable to load image SynTP.sys, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for SynTP.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for SynTP.sys
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for wdf01000.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for wdf01000.sys
Probably caused by : SynTP.sys ( SynTP+aae3 )
Followup: MachineOwner
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I hate debugging BSODs. I was getting them about twice a month on Windows 7 and I never bothered figuring out exactly what it was. I did a clean install of Windows 8.1 recently and I'm still getting weird USB device not recognized messages (I think the webcam is fucked) but no BSODs so far. 7 was also hanging pretty frequently when resuming from hibernation and I haven't seen that yet on 8.1.
on a black friday sale i'm going to buy an x220.
you still on your x60?! :)
you bet!
I'm spoiled by 1440x900 so I can never get another X series ThinkPad :(. maybe if they ever release that higher res x240...
I'm using a Macbook Pro now. :x
you'd think i would be able to find a x220 for a reasonable price... sadly, i'm afraid i'm going to get stuck with a x230 as there's very little inventory out there <$500. someone sell me theirs!
my work is giving me a 12" dell latitude for free. so it goes.
I just brushed a fine layer of dust off of my t61, chugs away like a tank, currently chatting on IRC! fun times.
still love my x220... use it for EVERYTHING. many vms on it. such ssd. wow.
i gave my dad my x200s, so now i only use my x220. i still like it.
if either of you are ever selling your x220, please contact me immediately.
me too
me first
fine. because you're a nice guy.
I have my old x60 sitting in my closet as an emergency backup should I need it, and a world travel laptop should zeee spies snoop all the things while abroad.
I figure my x220 will takeover that role should I upgrade again in distant future.
Just had to buy a replacement keyboard.... i broke my pipe key off. so weird.
I figure my x220 will takeover that role should I upgrade again in distant future.
Just had to buy a replacement keyboard.... i broke my pipe key off. so weird.
yeah, i kept my x200s around as a backup as well, until my dad's laptop died. then i gave it to him.
soooo I know we all know this, but new thinkpads suck. I just unboxed a t440 for a work customer and I was kinda psyched on the form factor. I compared it to my x301 and it's almost exactly the same size. except the display is lower res (1366x768 vs. 1440x900), new chiclet keys, and no optical drive bay. I kind of hate the clickpad too, though I could get used to it. I think the only thing it has on the x301 is speed (obv) and usb 3. fuck you, lenovo.
yeah, fuck them. the mac is kinda the last good laptop? too bad their keyboard isn't better.
My employer gave me a Dell XPS 13 "developer edition".
It's cool because it's very light, and that it comes pre-installed with Ubuntu; You cna actually go to the Dell website and download drivers. Shocking. I don't really like Ubuntu, though. I still can't get the fucking sound to work outside of the default Ubuntu UI (sound stops working with my own PekWM window manager). Argh.
It's uncool, mostly because it suffers from the "usual problems" that almost all laptops seem to suffer from: crappy keyboard, and glossy screen (to be fair, it's a nice screen, but glossy). In addition, it only has a Displayport and 2 USB ports, that's it (ie. no ethernet).
It's cool because it's very light, and that it comes pre-installed with Ubuntu; You cna actually go to the Dell website and download drivers. Shocking. I don't really like Ubuntu, though. I still can't get the fucking sound to work outside of the default Ubuntu UI (sound stops working with my own PekWM window manager). Argh.
It's uncool, mostly because it suffers from the "usual problems" that almost all laptops seem to suffer from: crappy keyboard, and glossy screen (to be fair, it's a nice screen, but glossy). In addition, it only has a Displayport and 2 USB ports, that's it (ie. no ethernet).
I just discovered it has a touchscreen by accidentally touching the screen. Why does anyone think that a touchscreen is a useful thing to have on a laptop...?
because windows 8!
no ethernet?? wtf
I don't imagine most people would need an ethernet port on their laptop. I think I've used the one on mine maybe twice... but both would have been for router maintenance.
I couldn't live without gigabit ethernet. you're probably right that most people don't need it though.
how's the 1920 res on that xps 13? I think I used 1920 on a 12-inch display once and it was too intense.
how's the 1920 res on that xps 13? I think I used 1920 on a 12-inch display once and it was too intense.
I like ethernet because of the consistent stability, and ease of setup.
> how's the 1920 res on that xps 13? I think I used 1920 on a 12-inch display once and it was
> too intense.
I need to zoom everything. Maybe I can configure Xorg to use a larger font by default, somehow. It's complicated by the fact that I connect it to a 22" 1920x1080 screen, where I would like it to be *slightly* larger, while on the laptop screen, I would like it *a lot* larger.
Maybe I'll just set a lower resolution...
btw:
http://superuser.com/questions/726648/whats-t … n-my-4-key
Why did Dell include a Rupee key on my keyboard :-/ ?
> how's the 1920 res on that xps 13? I think I used 1920 on a 12-inch display once and it was
> too intense.
I need to zoom everything. Maybe I can configure Xorg to use a larger font by default, somehow. It's complicated by the fact that I connect it to a 22" 1920x1080 screen, where I would like it to be *slightly* larger, while on the laptop screen, I would like it *a lot* larger.
Maybe I'll just set a lower resolution...
btw:
http://superuser.com/questions/726648/whats-t … n-my-4-key
Why did Dell include a Rupee key on my keyboard :-/ ?
perhaps cost cutting to sell same layout into both europe and india... they are now owned by private equity
Lenovo may build a new “classic” ThinkPad:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/06/my-dre … -thinkpad/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/06/my-dre … -thinkpad/
I would buy it.
I didn't know who else to tell so I thought I'd tell ttf about my new thinkpad! I got an x220 on eBay for like $200 a couple of months ago. it was kinda fucked and had clearly been dropped or seriously abused at some point but worked fine. I replaced the LCD with an IPS one (version 3 or whatever of the part number) and it blew my mind. so I just bought another x220 (i7) that's in much better shape from a coworker, popped the IPS panel in, and I'm loving it.
my x301 had a couple of cracks and was starting to feel a bit sluggish. I miss the form factor a bit (a lot; it will always be my favorite laptop like pedro martinez will always be my favorite pitcher) but the x220 is pretty damn good.
I also still have the weird habit I talked about in this thread of pointing with the touchpad and clicking with the trackpoint buttons.
I compared the IPS to dagr8gatzby's little macbook recently (same res, 1366x768) and it's not quite as bright but stands up pretty well nonetheless. and having a 7-row keyboard with stuff like an insert key is nice.
also reading this thread has me wanting to install xubuntu or something (I've been on windows 7 for as long as I can remember).
anyway, hi ttf! lucas, you should fix those php errors.
my x301 had a couple of cracks and was starting to feel a bit sluggish. I miss the form factor a bit (a lot; it will always be my favorite laptop like pedro martinez will always be my favorite pitcher) but the x220 is pretty damn good.
I also still have the weird habit I talked about in this thread of pointing with the touchpad and clicking with the trackpoint buttons.
I compared the IPS to dagr8gatzby's little macbook recently (same res, 1366x768) and it's not quite as bright but stands up pretty well nonetheless. and having a 7-row keyboard with stuff like an insert key is nice.
also reading this thread has me wanting to install xubuntu or something (I've been on windows 7 for as long as I can remember).
anyway, hi ttf! lucas, you should fix those php errors.
fixed. :)
My x220 has the IPS panel, max memory, the best SSDs, and it's still a great computer four years after it was made.
I'm using my girlfriend's MacBook Pro at the moment, and my God, these these things are fucking terrible.
Aw, I still have my eeePC 1005. I should get a Thinkpad.
still using my x220... no decent new thinkpads in sight... laptops may be ending.
I'm hoping they actually do the retro thinkpad, i would be very happy to buy lenovo again.
Using a desktop again. No laptops for me.
at this point i'm thinking about hording x220 laptops from ebay.
lucas... no bs, resistor put in a bulk order on panasonic cf-30 tough books. we use em for everything in the shop. their indestructible nature has some benefits. also... they survived multiple burning mans in select cases.
Our regular public health inspector has one of those. I drool over it when he stops by.
hey guys, I bought an 11-inch macbook air :|.
I'm so sorry :-(
Is there anything I can do to help?
Is there anything I can do to help?
lol
I kinda love it tbh
I kinda love it tbh
nny: oh, nycresistor? have any for sale? :]
I have a new Dell XPS thing now from work. The webcam is below the screen (instead of above it) and gives you an excellent view of the inside of your nostrils.
It also comes with this nVidia thing that I can't get to work on Linux :-/ I'm using the Intel stuff which is more than fast enough, but the battery life is like ~4/5 hours, which is not that long for a modern laptop IMHO...
Oh, and the super-HD 4000x2000 (or whatever) screen is just annoying. Everything is so small... I just set it to 1920x1080.
It also comes with this nVidia thing that I can't get to work on Linux :-/ I'm using the Intel stuff which is more than fast enough, but the battery life is like ~4/5 hours, which is not that long for a modern laptop IMHO...
Oh, and the super-HD 4000x2000 (or whatever) screen is just annoying. Everything is so small... I just set it to 1920x1080.
I got too fed up with the XPS15 and got a X270. I'm Thinkpad cool again!
Carpetsmoker: were there other things then the ones you mention above that annoyed you?
i'm considering an xps15, mostly because of its nvidia graphics and high resolution touch screen. the keyboard doesn't look particularly good, though, and of course it lacks the pointing stick in the middle of the keyboard i never use webcams. it seems that it can be charged through its usb c port -- pretty convenient
the thinkpad p51 looks good to me, but it's quite expensive. also, it comes with nvidia quadro, which doesn't justify its price increase from an nvidia geforce to me
i use an 11" macbook air now, which i bring everywhere without its charger, since it's so light and the battery lasts long enough. when i've gotten somewhere and use it, though, i often wish i had more of everything: screen, resolution, cpu cores, ram, graphics, mass storage, ...
i went to configure an xps15 now
- it only supports up to 32 GB of ram :/
- its only wifi option is "Killer 1535 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1" :\
i think i'll wait another year :p
thanks for reading my blog
i'm considering an xps15, mostly because of its nvidia graphics and high resolution touch screen. the keyboard doesn't look particularly good, though, and of course it lacks the pointing stick in the middle of the keyboard i never use webcams. it seems that it can be charged through its usb c port -- pretty convenient
the thinkpad p51 looks good to me, but it's quite expensive. also, it comes with nvidia quadro, which doesn't justify its price increase from an nvidia geforce to me
i use an 11" macbook air now, which i bring everywhere without its charger, since it's so light and the battery lasts long enough. when i've gotten somewhere and use it, though, i often wish i had more of everything: screen, resolution, cpu cores, ram, graphics, mass storage, ...
i went to configure an xps15 now
- it only supports up to 32 GB of ram :/
- its only wifi option is "Killer 1535 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1" :\
i think i'll wait another year :p
thanks for reading my blog
Yes, quite a few things actuallly bluet:
- The screen kept flickering; every ~30 mins it would dip in brightness for a second and then go back up.
- I never got suspend/resume to work well.
- I could never get the fans to stop running loudly! I tried all sorts of power management settings, locking the CPU to 800mhz, etc. but it would always make noise even on the lightest activity.
I literally haven't used the XPS15 in months; it's collecting dust. Instead, I've been using my Lenovo N22 Chromebook, which works pretty well, but is also very limited (which is to be expected for £100). Hence the X270.
I had a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition at my previous job, which came pre-installed with Ubuntu. I installed Arch Linux on it and that worked pretty well! Maybe I just had bad luck with this particular model of XPS15? Dunno... Could also be it works better now with Linux or BIOS updates. It's been well over half a year since I tried to do anything with it.
> the keyboard doesn't look particularly good, though
It's acceptable IMHO. It's not great, but beter than most. Not as good as Thinkpad.
Lack of dedicated buttons on touchpad is also a major PITA IMHO, but this is near-universal now unfortunatly :-(
> - it only supports up to 32 GB of ram :/
:-/ How much memory does one need?!
> i use an 11" macbook air now, which i bring everywhere without its charger, since it's so light and the battery lasts long enough. when i've gotten somewhere and use it, though, i often wish i had more of everything: screen, resolution, cpu cores, ram, graphics, mass storage, ...
I'm a simple guy with simple computing needs, I guess? The Chromebook with Atom-based CPU is *almost* (but not quite) fast enough for me. For the most part I just need xterm+vim+browser.
- The screen kept flickering; every ~30 mins it would dip in brightness for a second and then go back up.
- I never got suspend/resume to work well.
- I could never get the fans to stop running loudly! I tried all sorts of power management settings, locking the CPU to 800mhz, etc. but it would always make noise even on the lightest activity.
I literally haven't used the XPS15 in months; it's collecting dust. Instead, I've been using my Lenovo N22 Chromebook, which works pretty well, but is also very limited (which is to be expected for £100). Hence the X270.
I had a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition at my previous job, which came pre-installed with Ubuntu. I installed Arch Linux on it and that worked pretty well! Maybe I just had bad luck with this particular model of XPS15? Dunno... Could also be it works better now with Linux or BIOS updates. It's been well over half a year since I tried to do anything with it.
> the keyboard doesn't look particularly good, though
It's acceptable IMHO. It's not great, but beter than most. Not as good as Thinkpad.
Lack of dedicated buttons on touchpad is also a major PITA IMHO, but this is near-universal now unfortunatly :-(
> - it only supports up to 32 GB of ram :/
:-/ How much memory does one need?!
> i use an 11" macbook air now, which i bring everywhere without its charger, since it's so light and the battery lasts long enough. when i've gotten somewhere and use it, though, i often wish i had more of everything: screen, resolution, cpu cores, ram, graphics, mass storage, ...
I'm a simple guy with simple computing needs, I guess? The Chromebook with Atom-based CPU is *almost* (but not quite) fast enough for me. For the most part I just need xterm+vim+browser.
bluet: where's your blog? i didn't know (or more likely, forgot) that you had a blog!
cs: any comments on the x270?
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i'm still using my x220. it's pretty sluggish. spec summary:
= intel core i7 2640m, 8 gb ram
+ crucial 256 gb M550 msata ssd
+ samsung 256 gb 850pro sata ssd
( running 64-bit windows 7 and debian )
i'm eyeing the new macbook with an i7, 8 gb ram, and 256 gb ssd for $1550 or so.
+ improved keyboard may be decent! i should go demo at the store.
+ the screen is perfect for me. i like 1080 px < hres < 4000 px.
+ size, weight, and battery life would all make the macbook pretty easy to pack!
- the solo usb-c is obnoxious as hell. i want gigabit ethernet, >1 usb ports, and dp/hdmi onboard.
so to get the connectivity i want, at home, i'd need...
1. a usb-c to (power + usb + hdmi) adapter
2. a usb hub and gigabit ethernet adapter
i guess that's only $125 extra. really kills the elegance on the desktop, though. and in the office, i'd want the same setup, but i would just end up packing dongles around to save money.
i'd also want to buy a yubikey 4c (usb-c). i'd probably just get an usb-c to usb adapter to save money. this is a bummer, because i really love my yubikey 4 nano and how it's not exposed when installed in a usb-a port.
if i got the extended warranty, the total would be about $2000. X[
cs: any comments on the x270?
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i'm still using my x220. it's pretty sluggish. spec summary:
= intel core i7 2640m, 8 gb ram
+ crucial 256 gb M550 msata ssd
+ samsung 256 gb 850pro sata ssd
( running 64-bit windows 7 and debian )
i'm eyeing the new macbook with an i7, 8 gb ram, and 256 gb ssd for $1550 or so.
+ improved keyboard may be decent! i should go demo at the store.
+ the screen is perfect for me. i like 1080 px < hres < 4000 px.
+ size, weight, and battery life would all make the macbook pretty easy to pack!
- the solo usb-c is obnoxious as hell. i want gigabit ethernet, >1 usb ports, and dp/hdmi onboard.
so to get the connectivity i want, at home, i'd need...
1. a usb-c to (power + usb + hdmi) adapter
2. a usb hub and gigabit ethernet adapter
i guess that's only $125 extra. really kills the elegance on the desktop, though. and in the office, i'd want the same setup, but i would just end up packing dongles around to save money.
i'd also want to buy a yubikey 4c (usb-c). i'd probably just get an usb-c to usb adapter to save money. this is a bummer, because i really love my yubikey 4 nano and how it's not exposed when installed in a usb-a port.
if i got the extended warranty, the total would be about $2000. X[
lucas: the blog was in this thread :p
have you considered the dell xps 13 or new thinkpad x1 carbon? they are macbooky without being made by apple
have you considered the dell xps 13 or new thinkpad x1 carbon? they are macbooky without being made by apple
Scored a T500 for $40 off eBay. Needed a new battery. So I'm a member, now. :)
almost a year later, the p52 is announced: https://www.notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad-P52-Le … 564.0.html
i think i'll keep waiting
i think i'll keep waiting
> lucas: the blog was in this thread :p
oh haha. stupid of me to miss that joke
thanks for the thoughts on new computers. sticking with x220 for now. gonna write my ph.d. dissertation on this thing or die trying. need to focus.
oh haha. stupid of me to miss that joke
thanks for the thoughts on new computers. sticking with x220 for now. gonna write my ph.d. dissertation on this thing or die trying. need to focus.
i just ordered a p50 :x
I'm still an apple fanboy, sorry former thinkpad comrades. I miss my x301 sometimes but......
i've been doing some repairs on my x220, and i'm falling in love with it all over again
i wish i had kept my x60s. the aspect ratio made those so narrow! so cool looking imo. db, you still have it? :o i hope so! :)
i got my old x200s back from my dad when he upgraded to a macbook. glad to have it back!
i recommended an x-series for a friend to buy for his dad back in 2013 or so. it didn't work for his dad, so i bought it and gave it to my mom around that time. i got it back in 2019 when my mom died. it made me very sad because it was so slow (due to hdd swapping) that it was basically unusable. so i upgraded the ram, installed an ssd, and installed fresh win10. it works well enough, but i wish it had an beefier i7 (instead of the i5 that's in it) and a better keyboard (instead of the chiclets). gave it to nina, since her laptop is busted. i think she's happy enough with it
i think the long-term problem is going to be sourcing replacement batteries. lenovo has stopped producing batteries for the x220. i found a couple on ebay that were OEM new, but that means they were manufactured in like 2012 at the latest. batteries age, so it's not great to stockpile them. aftermarket batteries might be okay, but for how long will these manufacturers produce batteries for such old laptops?
i got my old x200s back from my dad when he upgraded to a macbook. glad to have it back!
i recommended an x-series for a friend to buy for his dad back in 2013 or so. it didn't work for his dad, so i bought it and gave it to my mom around that time. i got it back in 2019 when my mom died. it made me very sad because it was so slow (due to hdd swapping) that it was basically unusable. so i upgraded the ram, installed an ssd, and installed fresh win10. it works well enough, but i wish it had an beefier i7 (instead of the i5 that's in it) and a better keyboard (instead of the chiclets). gave it to nina, since her laptop is busted. i think she's happy enough with it
i think the long-term problem is going to be sourcing replacement batteries. lenovo has stopped producing batteries for the x220. i found a couple on ebay that were OEM new, but that means they were manufactured in like 2012 at the latest. batteries age, so it's not great to stockpile them. aftermarket batteries might be okay, but for how long will these manufacturers produce batteries for such old laptops?
Most batteries are just safely built 18650 battery arrays. We could always hack our own into being. :D
ok sounds good 8-)