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nny's avatar
6 years ago
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http://www.music-piracy.com/?p=758

that's all i have to say about that.
nestor's avatar
6 years ago
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nice post. i'm canadian, so yeah, your post has changed nothing.

i liked this quote re: the GOP from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC): "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."
phi_'s avatar
6 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
pre-election:
Republican House
Democratic Senate
Democratic President

post-election:
Republican House
Democratic Senate
Democratic President

As an American, the election has changed nothing. Four more years of drone strikes, wiretapping, militarized policing, and rampant environmental destruction. Yay.


(though I may be wrong about the Senate part ... but I think it's right.)
phi_'s avatar
6 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
"Basically to vote you had to be a land owning male with a wife and family. Ultimately that meant old white guy. But, I don’t want you to look at it like that. At the time, the goal was not to suppress any minority opinion. The goal was to promote a specific opinion. The opinion of people who were invested and more to the point dependent on the success of the country."

I really like that outlook of the electoral system. I get so tired of the racism angle.

All in all, it was a great read. Good work.
asemisldkfj's avatar
6 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm only halfway through this but good work so far.
asemisldkfj's avatar
6 years ago
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the law is no protection

In the entire fucking election there was maybe one question in the debates that even landed in the radar scan of shit I care about, and both candidates agreed to hate American principles and not a voice was heard even suggesting there was a problem with that.



only one? I agree with your sentiment but am going to nit-pick this detail.

I really like that outlook of the electoral system. I get so tired of the racism angle.



what racism angle?

As an American, the election has changed nothing. Four more years of drone strikes, wiretapping, militarized policing, and rampant environmental destruction. Yay.



as an American who happens to be female, my sister will be a hell of a lot more likely to have access to birth control and abortion services in the future.

what's more important: the health and well-being of those close to me or the military-industrial complex? I don't know, but I'm sure glad that my sister doesn't have to worry as much about pious old men restricting her healthcare choices.

to be clear, I'm just trying to be optimistic; we're all probably on pretty much the same page here. and it's ttf so how could we not be. ha ha. bad joke.
asemisldkfj's avatar
6 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
not to mention gay rights.

or how uninspiringly shallow our media and politics are.
asemisldkfj's avatar
6 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
what really gets my goat is people who think that if it wasn't for the evil Republicans, Obama would close Guantanamo Bay and repeal the Patriot Act and end the war on drugs and socialize healthcare, somehow ignoring that the Democrats are as beholden to their donors and maintaining the same fantasy of the American Dream as anyone is.
nestor's avatar
6 years ago
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do you guys really think if romney were elected he would push hard on abortion? that issue feels like more of election rhetoric than something you can actually pass without serious revolt (and specifically that one - birth control, lgbt rights are different).
asemisldkfj's avatar
6 years ago
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the law is no protection
I don't think he'd push hard on legislation, but were a supreme court justice to retire or die (neither of which are unlikely) I think that romney would appoint someone much more likely to overturn roe v. wade. I don't know how that would fare in a senate confirmation, but confirmation only requires a simple majority.
phi_'s avatar
6 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
> what racism angle?

I've heard a lot about the whole white, land-owning males allowed to vote ... people always, around here at least, tend to focus on the white portion rather than any other causes. That's all.

> as an American who happens to be female, my sister will be a hell of a lot more likely to have access to birth control and abortion services in the future.

This is a good outcome. Not going to deny that one bit.