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lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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i'm such an asshole anymore. i've talked down to people from three companies now. the only one i really like is slicehost.com (which is ttf's host).

here's part of a support request i just sent to dreamhost.com:

Every part of the web panel loads extremely slow, including this contact page, and the domain transfer page.

I _highly_ doubt it's our account, seems more like extremely high server loads.

Maybe you can put your main website www.dreamhost.com across the same servers that host panel.dreamhost.com so we can see what kind of service we'll be getting before we sign up.



so many of these hosts are terrible. :(
nestor's avatar
11 years ago
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nestor
you should try to convince [slicehost] to use ttf on their forum.
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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hahah
 
11 years ago
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Nillerz
Damn sexy, and damn better than you.
Dreamhost is awesome. I've moved all my sites there. It's wonderful. No complaints.

Panel isn't very fast, but meh. How often do you use it? I use it occasionally, and on freaking dialup, and I'm good.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
if I ever want to outsource my hosting then I will definitely look into slicehost. mostly because of your recommendation and because ttf is so damn fast. I've also heard some terrible stories about big web hosting providers and experienced some terrible speeds on sites hosted by them. not to say this is indicative of every big web hosting provider, but slicehost just seems great!
 
11 years ago
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Nillerz
Damn sexy, and damn better than you.
Worst host I've ever used is OneWEbHosting. They will bitch at you for no reason.

Also, JaggiEnterprises' webhost is out of business, so I guess they don't count...
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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> Panel isn't very fast, but meh. How often do you use it? I use it occasionally, and on freaking dialup, and I'm good.

It was damn slow for me, sometimes. But I don't anticipate using it much anymore.
 
11 years ago
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Nillerz
Damn sexy, and damn better than you.
I use it when adding a new domain or installing Joomla or something.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
We need to do our own hosting...seriously...set up some server farms and we'd be set for life.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
when I get a T1 everyone can ship me their servers.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
11 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
If you get a T1 I'll pay half the bill.
nny's avatar
11 years ago
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nny
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It's prolly cheaper and more effective to colo a box than it is to get a t1.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
probably true. I'd just like to have a T1 for my home internet connection someday. the hosting offer is just a nice side effect.
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10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I bought a 256 slice!

http://209.20.76.44/

running Ubuntu :/. I don't hate it so far, I just had to turn off stupid stuff like prompt and ls colors. the filesystem seems laid out alright.
nestor's avatar
10 years ago
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rtorrent. what is the connection like?
asemisldkfj's avatar
10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
rtorrent?

connection seems quick so far. how should I measure bandwidth from the command line? usually I use some Flash bandwidth test on Speakeasy's website.
nestor's avatar
10 years ago
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rtorrent is a console-based bittorrent program.

bandwidth from cl... um... wget something from a beasty server? i'm not sure either, they might have told you.
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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i usually do aol's ftp server and uunet's ftp server. amazon aws is proving to be intense, so maybe i'd use that as well.
maple's avatar
10 years ago
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maple
i like large datasets
just another bump for slicehost. i got a 1gig host (256->512->1G upgrades).

if you know what your doing they are the best.

running a debian box. just wish we could get some bsd's on there. id rather be running open. :/
asemisldkfj's avatar
10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
me too!
dannyp's avatar
10 years ago
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ttf members on slicehost push for openbsd
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10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
Open needs Xen support first, no?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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yeah, xen on ia64. which net also lacks.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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I hate Xen.
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10 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Are there any VMWare hosts?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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why do you hate xen? vmware is terrible software. it has way too much overhead. plus, it's not meant for large-scale implementation.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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Have you ever used ESX?
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10 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Also, The main problem I have with Xen is Guest OS modification.
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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i've never heard of esx. sorry, i didn't know that vmware did server virtualization.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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Yea it's pretty fuckin crazy man. Supposedly it was based off a linux kernel with a modified binary insertion, aka blob. Now it's a full blown server virtualization solution. Does Xen support 64-bit OS's? How does it compare to VMWARe. I'm using VMware Beat 2.0. All my VMs scream.
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10 years ago
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well xen actually has hypervisor... if you want to compare it to a vmware product the only thing it compares to is the ESX stuff (aka virtual infrastructure)... we use that stuff at work... and it knocks the socks off of xen in a whole bunch of ways. but xen is coming along and I am looking forward to it's future developements.
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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> Does Xen support 64-bit OS's?

shit yeah. but netbsd is one that doesn't have 64-bit support. that's not really xen's fault. it's an os porting effort, just like any other.
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10 years ago
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Yea and the fact that I can't run an unmodified 64-bit OS really blows ... :( Even VMWare Fusion Beat 2.0 is pretty fuckin screamin'. I run 3 RHEL VMs, a centos vm, and a windows VM, and it's still pretty nice.
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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from support@slicehost.com
to (me)
date Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:43 AM
subject Slicehost Support | wlw | <20756>
mailed-by slicehost.com

At 0830 GMT our monitoring system detected that your server had rebooted itself. We have restarted slices and are investigating the server for system issues. This is a rare event and we apologize for the service disruption. Should further action be necessary, we'll send a follow-up to this email. Please contact us if you have any questions.

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Slicehost Support

asemisldkfj's avatar
10 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
any idea what happened?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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i'm assuming that they mean that the whole server rebooted, not just my slice. and, no, they haven't emailed a follow-up yet.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Damn. Does Xen support snapshots?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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i guess freebsd on slicehost is in sight:

http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=378
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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You know .. I think we could use KVM and take out slicehost:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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I was thinking about getting a setup similar to Slicehost. However, since Slicehost doesn't offer BSD images, I was thinking I could use KVM instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine

http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki

Would you guys be interested in something like this? If so, please get back to me, as I've been interested in hosting VPS's for quite some time now.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
10 years ago
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All you slicehost people, if I started a webhost company with similar prices and offered *BSD VPS's, would you guys be onboard?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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i'd need a lot more details.
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10 years ago
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What would you want?
lucas's avatar
10 years ago
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lucas
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my slice is used for mission critical production, so the web host has to be good enough for my extremely high standards.

example: dreamhost fails by my standards for a shared host. 1and1 also fails.

i demand extreme hardware, an extreme noc with intense physical security, and a team that really knows their shit well.

i've only found one shared host that has satisfied me: http://www.racksense.com/
asemisldkfj's avatar
9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
my slice is down right now :(. so is another website I know to run on a slice. nothing on Twitter, nothing on the Slicehost status page. and ttf is still up! must be in a certain datacenter.

:/
asemisldkfj's avatar
9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
and now it's back. maybe it was a Verizon issue?
asemisldkfj's avatar
9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
happening again right now. it's Verizon. I can visit the "down" sites with my phone. Verizon sucks.
asemisldkfj's avatar
9 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
http://twitter.com/slicehost/status/6436559722

:)
Chiken's avatar
9 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
i might get one of the deals from those goons on something awful the next time i need a host. they put up some pretty decent deals.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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lucas
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huh?
Chiken's avatar
9 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=61

they are mostly only shared hosting plans, no vps or dedicated that i know of.
Weasley's avatar
9 years ago
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Weasley
20 x 10 living
512mb Slice, anyone?

I may invest in one.
maple's avatar
9 years ago
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maple
i like large datasets
ive got 3x 1GB slices. i love slicehost. never had a problem.

now if they would only give in to me and lucas's pleading and give us a bsd in there.
lucas's avatar
9 years ago
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lucas
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wow--3x 1gb
asemisldkfj's avatar
8 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
anyone ever heard of rootbsd ?
maple's avatar
8 years ago
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maple
i like large datasets
yeah i seen them before but they have definitely had a website upgrade since i was there last.

im hoping that with freebsd 8 that slicehost will now consider it. lucas and i have been bugging them

http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?Discu … amp;page=2

openbsd would be the ultimate for me. fucking amazing really. but i dont ever see that happening
asemisldkfj's avatar
8 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
glad to see the bugging about freebsd has been renewed in that slicehost thread.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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haha yeah

openbsd would be amazing, but yeah--not gonna happen
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:54:54 -0600
From: support@slicehost.com
To: lucas@wingedleopard.net, lucasreddinger@gmail.com
Subject: Slicehost Notice: Emergency host reboot underway | www.wingedleopard.net | <143894> [1502]

Dear Slicehoster,

We have been alerted to a software issue on the host running your slice that will require a controlled reboot to correct. During this process, we will attempt to save the execution state of your slice to minimize the impact to slices, but your slice may need to be shutdown.

We will begin this process in just a moment, and apologize for the unplanned event. We are performing this immediately to prevent a more impacting issue in the near future.

I will update you as soon as all slices have been brought back online. Impact is expected to be under 10 minutes.

Slicehost Support


[1502]
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Slicehost Support
support@slicehost.com

lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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aws ec2 has reserved pricing.

a small instance costs $0.03 per hour with a one-year reservation fee of $227.50.

((24 * 365 * 0.03) + 227.50) / 12 = $40.86

so if you run an instance constantly for a year, it will cost $41 per month on average.

a three-year reservation is only $350.00.

((24 * 365 * 3 * 0.03) + 350) / (12 * 3) = 31.6222222

so if you run an instance constantly for three years, it will cost $32 per month on average.

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by the way, a "small" instance isn't small relative to similarly-priced slicehost offerings.

1.7 GB memory
1 EC2 Compute Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit)
160 GB instance storage (150 GB plus 10 GB root partition)
32-bit platform
I/O Performance: Moderate
API name: m1.small

asemisldkfj's avatar
8 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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cool
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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I sent this message to SliceHost support:


https://manage.slicehost.com/users/1502/edit

I'm trying to remove my backup email address. I clear the field and click submit.

I get this error in response:
"Password must contain at least one number
Password must contain at least one upper case character
Password must contain at least one lower case character"

I don't want to change my password. I just want to clear my backup email address.

Cheers.




I got this careless reply:


Hi there Jonathan,

For security reasons, password must now contain at least one number, one upper case character, and one lower case character.

We're sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.


-Thomas
Slicehost Support




They should administer a reading comprehension exam to potential customer service hires.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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Hello,

Here was what I sent:

https://manage.slicehost.com/users/1502/edit

I'm trying to remove my backup email address. I clear the field and click submit.

I get this error in response:
"Password must contain at least one number
Password must contain at least one upper case character
Password must contain at least one lower case character"

I don't want to change my password. I just want to clear my backup email address.

Cheers.





Please read my message again and respond accordingly.

Lucas





Hi there Jonathan,

Like I said, for security reasons, password must now contain at least one number, one upper case character, and one lower case character. It sounds to me that your current password doesn't meet these requirements. If it does, then just type your current password into the new password box.

If that doesn't work, then I guess you will have to change your password. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.


-Thomas
Slicehost Support





But I'm not trying to change my password. I'm just trying to remove my backup email address.

Lucas





My current password does meet those stated requirements.

I guess what I'm saying is that I consider the response a bug. If I'm only trying to alter my associated email addresses, it's confusing to have to set a "new" password, even if I enter my current password.

I humbly suggest that you change error handling on that script.

Lucas

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8 years ago
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lucas
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p.s.

[2007-11-05] $-5.00 = Credit for referring adam@fakeempire.com (256Slice)
[2008-09-19] $-5.00 = Credit for referring brianpcurran@gmail.com (256 slice)

:D
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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Hi there Lucas,

First, let me apologize for getting your name wrong in my past two emails. Really sorry about that.

Secondly, I realize that you are not trying to change your password. The thing is, you might end up having to change your password in order to remove your secondary email address. This is what I attempted to describe in my previous email.

As I said earlier, I'm really sorry about this inconvenience.


-Thomas
Slicehost Support





First, let me apologize for getting your name wrong in my past two emails. Really sorry about that.




No problem at all (my full name is Jonathan Lucas Reddinger).


Secondly, I realize that you are not trying to change your password. The thing is, you might end up having to change your password in order to remove your secondary email address. This is what I attempted to describe in my previous email.




I realize that. I'm just suggesting that the form work in two separate fashions. If there is a change to the email addresses and both password fields are blank, then it should accept the changes to the email addresses and leave the password alone.

Don't you agree?

In other words, if your dev team has a lazy day, perhaps they could segment the case logic in the script.

Cheers,
Lucas

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8 years ago
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> cool

i contacted verne global for information.

The data centre is currently in construction and will be ready by late Q2 2010. Because of the demand we may be offering colo in a container solution prior to the main facility completion. Planned rates as follows:

Installation - $2,765
4kW rack inc power - $1,520 per month

If you need further info please feel free to get in touch.

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8 years ago
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I am not a robot...
> Secondly, I realize that you are not trying to change your password. The thing is, you might end up having to change your password in order to remove your secondary email address. This is what I attempted to describe in my previous email.

I think this is bullshit and he was backpedalling hard. :)
 
8 years ago
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LLF
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I use JustHost, it's very useful. I use it for http://www.globnetwork.com
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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i don't like what justhost does when i try to close their web page's tab.
nny's avatar
8 years ago
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nny
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I like linode.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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damn, linode looks great. better specs than slicehost, and their additional IPs are $1 cheaper.
Weasley's avatar
8 years ago
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Weasley
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LLF - justhost is shared hosting, and we all know it cannot compare to a good VPS

Brickfilms.com which is a website I develop for is switching to Slicehost on a 384mb slice xD
 
8 years ago
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Yeah, Aled, I was thinking of switching to Slicehost after the 1 year for globnetwork.com expires.
lucas's avatar
8 years ago
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lucas
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in this post above, i demonstrated that running an aws ec2 small instance for one year costs about $41/month, or running one for three years costs about $32/month.

aws just came out with a micro instance. running one non-stop costs about $15/month. if you pay a one-year reservation price, it costs about $10/month. if you pay a three-year reservation price, it costs about $7/month.

aws ec2 is finally cheaper than any vps provider!
bluet's avatar
1 year ago
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i've just signed up for my free trial of google cloud platform: https://cloud.google.com/free/

you can run one f1-micro instance for free, "always". otherwise they cost $4.09 per month, with no reservation: https://cloud.google.com/compute/pricing

i'm going to cancel my digitalocean vps, and just use this instead

it seems a lot more convenient than aws. we use a bunch of amazon web services at work, and it's always such a pain to learn a service for the first time
lucas's avatar
1 year ago
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yes, it is. SO complicated.