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16 years ago
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Want to? How would you pick your bike? This thread is mainly for brainstorming and dumping your experiences when they happen.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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i just want to build a fixie on a surly steamroller frame.

c'est tout.
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16 years ago
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I would most definitely build, mostly because I love building stuff and I like being able to customize what I get. I'd consider the soma smoothie es for touring. right now I commute on an old Fuji frame converted to a fixed gear and I'm building a road bike with mostly Shimano 105 components on a Soma Smoothie frame.

the camping aspect of touring would be the most foreign to me, so I'd like to try out some regular old camping first!
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16 years ago
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i've been talking to a girl who has a surly crosscheck. i'm trying to decide between the steamroller and the crosscheck.

both have horizontal dropouts, so you can (easily) do a single speed on either.

the crosscheck would be nice because:
=> it has grommets and eyelets for extra gear and fenders
=> you can put a v brake on it, which is nice for fatty snow tires
=> it has a 132.5mm spacing, so you can use both 135mm and 130mm hubs
=> you can put gears on it for touring

the steamroller is nice because:
=> it lacks all of the grommets and eyelets for a clean, simple look
=> it has a track bike geometry and uses a traditional 120mm hub spacing
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16 years ago
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doing a fixed or single speed on the crosscheck would be kinda weird. especially with the dropout spacing. you might have to have them respaced to 120mm or find a fixed or single speed hub that's 130mm (do these exist?). also the downtube shifter bosses wouldn't look so hot with nothing on them.

I vote crosscheck if you're gonna build up a geared touring bike and steamroller if you're gonna build up a fixed or single-speed.

have you looked at the Soma frames at all?
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> find a fixed or single speed hub that's 130mm (do these exist?)

surly makes a 130mm flip flop

> the downtube shifter bosses wouldn't look so hot with nothing on them

yeah :/ that's the problem.. all of the unused braze-ons

> I vote crosscheck if you're gonna build up a geared touring bike and steamroller if you're gonna build up a fixed or single-speed.

well right now i just want a fixie. so i'm totally all for the steam roller. but to be forward looking, the crosscheck might be a good option so i can convert to a touring bike if i want to in the future.

> have you looked at the Soma frames at all?

a bit.. not much, though.
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16 years ago
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dp: http://www.surlybikes.com/new/bigdummy_pop.html

:D

i'd have to get one of these if i get a flip flop:

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/produ … egory=1398
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16 years ago
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steamrollers!

http://velospace.org/node/3430
http://velospace.org/node/1840
http://velospace.org/node/4094
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16 years ago
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something in-between a full-on touring frame and a single speed frame might be nice.

http://somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html

here for cheaper (where I got my soma smoothie): http://www.bikemania.biz/Soma_Smoothie_ES_Roa … thiees.htm
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16 years ago
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I like that pic of the one in the river!
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16 years ago
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those bike spoke slider things jogged my memory of my old bike holy shit. [river surly second link]. wow i had those on my first bike..yeah..
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> something in-between a full-on touring frame and a single speed frame might be nice.

this seems to be the closest that soma comes to that:

http://somafab.com/delancey.html

they don't say what their dropout spacing is, though
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nm, it's a 120mm
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the smoothie es I linked to doesn't come close?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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it doesn't have horizontal dropouts
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though I guess if you're set on building a fixed gear and not a single speed the vertical dropouts won't do. forgot about that. you could get an old road frame with horizontal dropouts.

the surly frames you're looking at don't have horizontal dropouts. those are called fork ends.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_dr-z.html#dropout
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blargh I guess the crosscheck does have horizontal dropouts. the steamroller doesn't though.
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i see.. track fork ends.

serious knowledge about to be dropped on the bike people i talk to in the future. :D

sheldon brown's site is pretty nice. i read most of it two summers ago.
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16 years ago
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yeah, his site is great!
dannyp's avatar
16 years ago
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maybe his content is but the site... :\
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16 years ago
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honestly I think your ideal buy right now would be a nice old road frame with horizontal dropouts. it's just tough finding something that's decent for a good price. if you're lucky you could score something on craigslist. keep an eye out for frames.
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16 years ago
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I picked this guy. Since I live in NYC I wanted something more road bikish... but also capable of handling the occasional cobble stone street, nasty pothole, or curb I didn't quite get over. So I went with a cyclocross style bike. And ultimately went with a surly frame due largely to a cost to performance decision. Surly makes relatively cheap, nice, and fiendishly pretty frames. Anyways NYC at least has several awesome bike shops if anyone is in the neighborhood I could recommend a few.

Additionally... I dunno I mean maybe I'm just not hip to the jive... but I do not understand new yorkers fascination with fixed gear no break bikes. I mean they are ridiculously difficult to ride and provide almost no real benefits.

That's just my opinion.
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fixed gear is ridiculously fun to ride and enjoyable in the city because you have more control over your speed while riding in traffic without having to pinch the brakes at all. I wouldn't say they're difficult, just different. definitely takes some getting used to, but now coasting feels pretty weird to me.

that being said, I think riding fixed gear with no brakes is silly. having a front brake for when I'm tired or just don't feel like stopping with my feet is great.
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16 years ago
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riding without a front brake is also dangerous
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yeah, not to mention that relying on only one mechanism to stop is kind of stupid. riding fixed without a brake is stupid for the same reason riding a freewheel with one brake is stupid.
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16 years ago
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i just ordered a 56cm surly cross-check in white
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16 years ago
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sweet! white frames are pretty nice-looking. take pics when it arrives. are you gonna build it up as a fixed gear?

my road bike is nearing completion. the final parts are currently in the mail :).
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16 years ago
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or did you order the complete bike and not just the frame?
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16 years ago
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Can someone break this down for me? Maybe a per part diagram or description with different options.

I.E. - Processor(AMD, Intel) syntax
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16 years ago
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i just ordered the frame-set. i'm gonna build it as a fixed gear. i want to use surly hubs, but i don't know which rims to use nor who to have build my wheels.
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I'll draw some stuff up later, gatz.

what're you gonna do with all the extra braze-ons and stuff, lucas? just leave 'em or deck it out with fenders and stuff?
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16 years ago
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i definitely want fenders (to keep my back clean), two brakes (for freewheel use), and maybe a rack for groceries

i just decided on wheels:
rim -- velocity deep v 700c 32h machined lime green (second choice electric blue)
hub -- surly new hub 130mm 32h fixed/free black

the rims are ~$100 for the set, the hubs are ~$130 for the set. i offered a girl i know $50 to build the wheelset.

any recommended tires? i need road tires between 700c/28 and 700c/40.
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any particular reason for the deep v's? they seem awfully trendy lately.

can you put tires that big on the deep v's? I couldn't find anything that explicitly mentioned any limit, but this website - http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/velocity.asp - says the following: "The Deep V is also a terrific tandem rim for those who want to use relatively narrow tires; up to 28mm works great, and some folks even use 32mm on them."

for tires, I've never bought anything wider than 23, so I'll only be able to recommend those :). I have Continental Ultra Gatorskins on my fixed gear and they've been good to me. I think I've had one flat and that wasn't the tires' fault at all.
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well i was looking at mavic and velocity rims, and jenna recommended velocity's aero and dyad rims. but the deep v is stronger, which is what i want. i have a steel frame, so i figure i might as well build it up as tough instead of light.
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16 years ago
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asemi, can you recommend brands for other parts? like:

cantilever brakes and brake levers
headset/stem/bar (i need 1/18" threadless, i want a drop bar)
seat post/saddle
drive train equipment

the more i look around, the more options and brands i find and i'm in over my head.

do you like fsa or cane creek?

i'm kinda liking www.universalcycles.com. ever use them? can you recommend other online stores?

thanks!
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I can't recommend any cantilever brakes. I've never used them. depending on what kind of handlebars you get, your choice of brake levers could vary. the best cross lever I've used is from Salsa: http://www.dirtrag.com/print/article.php?ID=6 … epartments

you could also use something like these - http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=16596 - if you want the hoods (black part of that one) to rest your hands on or you just prefer those types of levers. those will mostly be suitable for drop handlebars and no others. the cross levers can be used on pretty much any bars.

I got a Cane Creek S-6 headset on Nashbar for really cheap. it was marked down from like 80 bucks to 30 or something. make sure you get a headset that says it has cartridge/sealed bearings, as you will never have to open it up and regrease those; you'll just have to replace the bearings with a new cartridge of them after a while.

I don't know a ton about threadless stems. I recently got an FSA OS-140 with carbon faceplate on eBay for about 30 bucks. they go new for over 100 :). the 3T Forgie stem looks alright as well and it's not too expensive.

I have the 3T Forgie drop bars on my fixed gear and I'm putting them on my road bike as well. they're not too expensive, they're pretty light, and I like the shape of 'em. bars are very much about personal preference. just check out the material of the bars and the weight as well. a lot of stuff is made of aluminum 6061. it's also important if it's heat-treated or otherwise specially made. if it's not it's not a huge deal, but it just indicates differences in quality.

both of my seatposts are Thomson Elites and they're really nice. I got one on sale on ebikestop.com (I think that's the address) for about 60 bucks and the other one used on Craigslist for 40. the Kalloy seatposts aren't terrible but are kind of ugly.

drive train equipment will be important on your bike to make sure the chainline (line from the chainring to the cog on the rear wheel) is straight. when you're shopping pay attention to what mm chainline certain parts are supposed to give you. I forget if it's the bottom bracket or the crankset that will tell you what chainline you will get, but it will be important. otherwise there will be a lot of noise from the chain, less efficient transfer of power, and increased wear on the chainring and cog.

for a nice, cheap crankset, you can't beat Bulletproof cranks. they're something like 35 bucks. the longest they come in, I think, is 165 mm. you don't really want to go any shorter than that. and possibly not any longer, depending on the bottom bracket height of your frame and less so on the size of the tires you use.

there isn't a huge selection of cogs. just don't get the cheapest of them. and remember to stick to either 1/8" or 3/32" drivetrain components and chain. 3/32" will be cheaper and slightly quieter and there seems to be a wider selection of parts.

I don't prefer either brand, FSA or Cane Creek, as they both have low and high end stuff. I've got parts from both of them.

some good online shops:
- nashbar.com
- performancebike.com
- ebay.com (of course)
- bikeman.com

if I think of anything else I'll let you know! or if you have any more questions or need clarification, don't hesitate to ask.
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16 years ago
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opinions on www.universalcycles.com ?
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16 years ago
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I've never used them, but I like their website!
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16 years ago
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you should hit jabber/gmail/irc real quick

p.s. thanks for the long, awesome post
 
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16 years ago
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i'm doing cross 4 on the rear wheel and cross-0 on the front.

what i've bought so far:
surly "new" hubs (130mm flip flop 32h black, QR 32h front)
velocity deep v rims (machined yellow 32h 700c)
wheelsmith spokes (straight 2mm gauge black)
wheelsmith nipples (12mm green alloy)
cane creek s1 headset (1-1/8")

what i still need:
chain
chainring
crankset
bottom bracket
pedals
seatpost
saddle
qr skewer
stem
dropbars
tape
tires
tubes
sprocket
brakes
brake levers


seriously daunting.
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16 years ago
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you're doing radial lacing on the front wheel? any reason why other than looks? just seems silly if you're gonna be building something that's meant to be tough.

it's totally daunting. it's taken me months to finish my road bike.

just a piece of advice: if you're gonna be locking it up outside at all, don't do quick release wheels. unless you want to deal with chaining up both wheels every time you lock it up or worrying about someone popping a wheel off.
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16 years ago
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i'm doing radial lacing just for the hell of it. i'm not too worried about the front wheel (i've read i shouldn't be). if i break many spokes, i'll lace it again as a 3- or 4-cross. ;)

i'll probably get a long chain or something for the QR front wheel. i'll have a solid axle on the rear, so i'll just hit the front of the frame and the front wheel with the chain. i'm not gonna lock it up outside for prolonged periods of time. just while in a cafe or in class.
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I need to do something about lighting for my bike. I am thinking EL wiring. Uniqueish, hard to steal.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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just got my frame... it's pretty awesome. now i just gotta build it up!
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this could be a pretty sweet deal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Dura-Ace-Track-Crank … dZViewItem
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirimobile/854638877
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I don't know how much the Dura Ace cranksets usually go for, but that would rule if you got it at all.

I just got my shoes in the mail today. Shimano R098s. clipless is gonna be sweet!
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16 years ago
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nice :D
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16 years ago
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/steamroller … fixedgear/

steamroller lovin'
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/96044831@N00/470794340/

these are the same rims as mine (except mine are yellow). now i'm thinking about putting some text on my rims!
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16 years ago
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finished my road bike!

pics are here.
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:D awesome. thanks for the good write-up!
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thanks for the list of prices and pieces too!
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16 years ago
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no prob! I kept track of that stuff 'cause I was curious how much it would end up costing vs. a complete bike.
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you've probably seen this, lucas, but here's a big page about bottom brackets, including chainline measurements.

http://sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html
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another good page about chainline.

http://sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html
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new suggestion: read the relevant Sheldon Brown article before buying any part :).
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haha.. yeah, i have been. but sheldon doesn't have the measurements for the surly 130mm "new" hub. :(

so i'm waiting to get my hub so i can measure it. then i'll buy the crankset/bb/chainwheel/cog/chain.
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right now i'm looking for a stem, and i can't find one i like.

what i want:

1-1/8" threadless
<=100mm length
<= +/-30 degree
25.4mm (preferred) or 26.0mm clamp
<= $40
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oh, and i can't find good lime green bar tape anywhere. :(
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i kinda like this one:

ritchey comp 26.0mm 90mm 84/96deg blk 1-1/8" $31.95
http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPSTRDRIT/SM4780
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16 years ago
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30 degree rise/drop seems kind of ridiculous. why so much?

I don't think I've ever seen a threadless stem with a 25.4 bar clamp.

I suggest this stem if you're not completely against a 31.8 clamp.
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threadless stems can be pretty ugly. it was tough finding one that I liked. the 3TTT Forgie stems seem okay too. only place I looked at those was on eBay.
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it seems that the chainline (center to shoulder) measurements on the surly 130mm "new" hub are:
free side: 39.5mm
fixed side: 41.5mm
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i got my drive train components all figured out!

sugino messenger crankset 130mm 5 arm JIS square taper 165mm length $63
sugino messenger track chainring 1/2 x 1/8" 130mm 44t $56
whipperman whitestar 1-speed 1/2 x 1/8" silver chain $13
shimano bb-un54 JIS english 68 x 110mm $17
surly track cog 1/8" 16t $20
surly lockring $12.50

this *should* give me a perfect chainline. if not, i'll buy another cheap-o shimano bb. ;)
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sweet!
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i feel like such a loser getting platform pedals with clips/straps... :(
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sugino messenger crankset 130mm 5 arm JIS square taper 165mm length $63
sugino messenger track chainring 1/2 x 1/8" 130mm 44t $56
whipperman whitestar 1-speed 1/2 x 1/8" silver chain $13
shimano bb-un54 JIS english 68 x 110mm $17
surly track cog 1/8" 16t $20
surly lockring $12.50
salsa ss black front skewer $23
velocity rim hole plugs $13.99
cane creek scx-5 cantis f&r $56
cane creek scr-5 black compact aero brake levers $30
continental std. 700x18-25c 48mm valve pv tube (3) $11.97
nitto noodle 26.0mm x 42cm dropbar $32.99
ritchey comp 27.2mm 150mm al seatpost $24.99
selle italia prolink light yellow saddle $69.99
michelin krylion carbon 700c x 23 yellow road tires $71.98
ritchey pro stem +/-17deg 16.0mm clamp 1-1/8" tl 100mm length $49.99
forte classic cork tape yellow $4.99

still need to figure out the pedal situation
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just bought everything. $1,400 total.
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formatted listing..



FRAME
surly crosscheck 56cm white frameset $400

WHEELS
surly 32h qr black front hub $46
surly 32h black 130mm rear hub $56
wheelsmith green nipples $23
wheelsmith black 2mm straight guage spokes $65
velocity deep v yellow 32h 700c rims $108
salsa flip off black qr front skewer $23
velocity rim hole plugs $14
michelin krylion carbon 700c x 23 yellow road tires (2) $72
continental std 700x23c 48mm valve tubes (3) $12

DRIVETRAIN
sugino messenger 165mm crankset $63
sugino messenger 44t 130mm 1/2 x 1/8" track chainring $56
shimano engl 68x110mm bb $17
surly 1/8" 16t track cog $20
surly lockring $13
whipperman whitestar 1/2 x 1/8" silver chain $13
mks platform silver pedal $21
mks medium aluminum toe clips $13
soma black leather toe straps $10

FRONT STUFF
cane creek s1 black 1-1/8" headset $26
cinelli splash black/yellow cork bar tape $12
cane creek scr-5 aero black brake levers $30
cane creek scx-5 canti black brake set $56
ritchey pro +/-17deg 1-1/8" 100mm stem $50
ritchey pro 40cm dropbar $39.99

MIDDLE STUFF
ritchey comp 27.2mm 150mm black aluminum seatpost $25
selle italia prolink yellow gel saddle $70

PRICE: about $1,400
 
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jesus that's expensive, so how much are you investing in a lock and bike electrification system?
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16 years ago
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damn, expensive!

just a random tip, but get a decent bike pump with a PSI gauge on it. and keep yer tires inflated to the right pressure!
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i forgot to buy:
brake cables/housing

i need/want:
locks
fenders
freewheel
pump
lights
more cogs
tools (chain whip &c)
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just bought the "OnGuard PitBull MINI DT 5008 Bicycle U-Lock and Extra Security Cable" for $40 on amazon.
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my wheel build thinks that cross-4 is going to tear up my rim and hub, so i have to get my spokes cut and re-threaded for cross-3. i guess somehow they were too long, anyway.
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4x seems like a bit overkill anyways.
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more parts
$8 - brake cable housing
$6 - brake cables
$2 - front brake housing catcher
$5 - chain wheel bolts
$4 - crank bolts

labor
$18 - cut & rethread spokes
$30 - cut steering tub and install headset/stem
$60 - build wheel

total (parts and labor): $1487
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pictures tomorrow
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sweet! looking forward to pics.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasreddinger/tags/fixedgear/
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YES

the seat looks big pimpin, and the bright colors rock..

the frame color really stands out. i'm not sure if it makes me dig the overall color scheme, but i like the bright and the black.
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16 years ago
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if the frame was black, i think the bike would be too black for me. i think it looks pretty good.
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16 years ago
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I like it. the colors are nice. the only things I don't like the looks of are the stem and the crankset.
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16 years ago
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reverse link the tagged set of flickr stuff to ttf? :D
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16 years ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0AFpq6jFok
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16 years ago
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commuting headlamp:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/bigbang.asp
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16 years ago
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how about a generator?
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
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16 years ago
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that generator stuff is crazy. seems overwhelming to me and not really worth it. a couple of rechargeable AAs works fine and the light itself will probably be smaller.

in the areas I ride in, the purpose of lights is more so others can see me, not so I can see. there're enough streetlights and stuff for me to see pretty well.
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16 years ago
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so there is this place in kingston (where i go to school) that sells refurbished bikes for $20

they're pretty decent road bikes

it's called the "yellow bike action centre" and is staffed by volunteer mechanics and other chill types

i'm getting one tomorrow
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16 years ago
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thats pretty sweet, wish we had a place like that around here.
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16 years ago
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nestor the ttf yellow bike action centre reseller? :o
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16 years ago
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that sounds pretty awesome, nestor. do they have a website? I'll check later.
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16 years ago
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here's a story on it in the campus paper

http://queensjournal.ca/story/2007-10-26/news … community/
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16 years ago
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that sounds pretty awesome. similar to Bikes Not Bombs here.

http://www.bikesnotbombs.org/
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16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Boston has some cool shit... I live down the road from four gun shops, which is cool in its own right, but I'd still like to see something like BnB around here.
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i think i'm going to get the 700c nokian hakkapeliitta w106 35mm studded tires.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/images/produc … opview.jpg
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16 years ago
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will those fit on the steamroller?
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16 years ago
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consider whether or not you might want fenders on there, too!
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16 years ago
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i got the cross check, not the steamroller. getting them on the steamroller would definitely be questionable.

yeah--i also want fenders and a light.
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16 years ago
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heh so yeah, the critical mass guys in NYC are pretty cool, problem is their ran by activists, and activists are notorious for not thinking their actions through. They are still buried in legal crap from when they decided to shut down an active traffic lane in NYC during the GOP with 40 000 riders.

now I'm not commenting for or against this... I support more bikes and such, and I personally dislike protests on basis of ethics and efficiency... but the problem with this PARTICULAR incident was they forced the police to close down their north - south emergency lane... and without it during that event basically put emergency vehicles going north to south (or vice versa) in manhattan into gridlock, and that jeopardizes peoples lives.

This is completely off topic... to a point. I think bicyclists need to remember from time to time, it's not that they are being treated unfairly, it's just not possible to serve their needs with the resources available. Doubly so for activists, who seem to think that by interrupting things they can make themselves better heard.

Just a word of caution I guess.
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16 years ago
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I hear you, nny.

I used to go to Critical Mass here because it was just fun to ride with a bunch of people, but I got fed up with all the morons bent on antagonizing cars. it just wasn't fun being near or being associated with so many assholes.

now I just ride my bike and shut up about it :).
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16 years ago
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so hot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pseudothoughts/2113263170/
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16 years ago
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> i think i'm going to get the 700c nokian hakkapeliitta w106 35mm studded tires.

backordered. :(
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16 years ago
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i guess qbp can't get the nokian w106 anymore or something, so i ordered up the...

nokian hakkapeliitta w240 700x40

:o

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/images/produc … s/w240.jpg
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16 years ago
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damn those are intense.

I want pics once they're on!
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16 years ago
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k. :D
andyp's avatar
16 years ago
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vYB7CpwxcUw

safety bike! gets good at 1:53
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16 years ago
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last shot is priceless
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16 years ago
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haha awesome! if they would have used a wider rail or two rails, it probably would have been better.
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16 years ago
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hahaha I lol'ed at 2:04
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16 years ago
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my tires got in from qbp today! gonna go get them in a bit--pictures and a review to come!
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16 years ago
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=P safety through stupidity... proving darwin wrong since well... forever.
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16 years ago
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in response to me or what?
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16 years ago
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasreddinger/t … apeliitta/
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those are hardcore.
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16 years ago
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shit, those are awesome. I need some of those.
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16 years ago
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on the topic of this thread, I need to do some camping this Spring/Summer. I have pretty much zero experience camping so I might be soliciting advice here.
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16 years ago
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today i bought a cateye tail light, some wet lube, and some solvent. :D

--

i want five things for my bike, in this order:
1. fenders
2. nice rechargable head light
3. deda bright green bar tape
4. new stem (120mm, 0 degree)
5. green chris king nothreadset (when my cane creek headset busts up)

YES! i finally found green bar tape!

after these five things, my bike will be perfect. :-*
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16 years ago
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fenders are key!
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16 years ago
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lights are key.

I rode to class today for the fun of it. it was still a little cold for my asthma and I had a little trouble breathing. nothing major though.

riding home from somewhere is so much more fun than riding there.
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i bought a head light yesterday--the cateye hl-el520. it uses 4xAA batteries, and i have tons of rechargeable AAs i use for all my electronics. this is a nice (japanese), bright (1w led), inexpensive ($42 at the local shop) solution.

i don't know if i really want fenders. i hate the look and they are so big and clunky. :/
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16 years ago
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they're crucial if you want to ride in wet conditions. otherwise your lower back and butt get all wet and so do your feet and lower legs. it's miserable.

there are a lot of options for fenders. chances are you'll be able to live with one of them and it will beat getting wet. dunno though.

that's a lot of batteries! my rear light uses 2 AAAs and my front light uses 2 AAs.
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16 years ago
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i like tearing it up and getting wet... :)
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16 years ago
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that's totally fun sometimes, but other times it kind of sucks. depends on your destination.
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16 years ago
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yeah! fuck fenders! they are off my list.

new bicycle want list:

1. 2xAAA rechargables
2. floor pump
3. new helmet
4. deda bright green bar tape
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/produ … p?id=22104
5. new stem (120mm, 0 degree)
6. chris king green nothreadset (when my cane creek headset busts up)
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/produ … kquote>

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16 years ago
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yeah! fuck fenders! they are off my list.

new bicycle want list:


1. 2xAAA rechargables
2. floor pump
3. new helmet
4. deda bright green bar tape
5. new stem (120mm, 0 degree)
6. chris king green nothreadset (when my cane creek headset busts up)

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16 years ago
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floor pump is crucial. what do you pump with now? it's tough to get to a good pressure with a portable pump.

I just need a shorter stem for my road bike right now. everything else is fine and dandy!
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16 years ago
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i don't pump right now. :o i don't have a portable, either.
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16 years ago
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how do you fill up your tires then? at a shop? those things go down in pressure pretty fast. gotta fill 'em up like once a week.
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16 years ago
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really? mine seem okay. i have clinchers, though. do you run clinchers or tubular?

i'm paranoid now--maybe i'll buy a pump soon.
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16 years ago
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clinchers. you have good reason to be paranoid; shit runs down fast. go use a pump at a bike shop or something. they always have one available to the public it seems.
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16 years ago
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bah, i'll just buy one sometime soon.
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16 years ago
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i love this color combo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fontosaurus/2276 … otostream/
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that would get horrifically dirrrrrrty though.
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16 years ago
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there should be white tires on that. or more black on the frame or something.
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16 years ago
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yeah that blue rocks on white
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16 years ago
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don't ignore the maroon hubs! they complete it for me.
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16 years ago
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QUESTION: so, how do people bike around without their hands on the handlebar? whenever i try this, i lose control.

skills? or an over-tightened headset?

"FUCK YES--LETZ BE GRIPPIN AND SMOTHERIN SOME HEADSET BEARINGS"
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16 years ago
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haha i have never been able to do that either!!!
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16 years ago
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skills, definitely. you gotta relax, kind of lean back. maybe even steady the frame a little with one of your thighs. you kind of have to lean the bike to one side while you're doing it; it has something to do with the rotational force (or something) of the wheels.

practice! it's fun.
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16 years ago
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kk i'll work on it
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you need to bike on occasion without hands... my back isn't up for 6 hours of hunching over =P
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16 years ago
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if your back hurts, your bike doesn't fit! :)
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16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Or if you suffer from kyphosis. ;)
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15 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
I'm in the market for a touring bike now! Reviewing this thread now.
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15 years ago
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gonna buy a complete?
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15 years ago
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I'm thinking of going all custom. I am going to try to beat lr's cost though.
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15 years ago
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I definitely think you can beat it.
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15 years ago
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what kind of frame are you gonna look for? specifically touring? relaxed geometry road frame? mountain bike frame?

how much are you looking to spend?
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15 years ago
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Specifically touring!

I want to spend as little as possible to have a durable bike that can carry my travel gear.
I don't require all new parts, used is fine as long as it's a long lasting part.
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i'm working on my brake cable routing. i flipped my stem downwards, so there is very little room for the housing to route to the hanger. i'm going to try to find a longer hanger tomorrow at a LBS.

i'm also considering using my right brake lever for my front brake, and my left brake lever for my rear. thoughts on this?

also, i didn't know that sheldon brown is dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)

:(
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15 years ago
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I am not a robot...
>i'm also considering using my right brake lever for my front brake, and my left brake lever for my rear.

Why? Is this just for the sake of freshies? Because, as I'm sure you know, it'll fuck with your mind if you have any sort of tendency to use one more than the other...
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15 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
> thoughts on this?

Go for it! Makes more sense to me anyway.
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15 years ago
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that's the way they do the brake levers in Europe, lucas! America rules though. plus I'm so used to front on left.

why are you using a brake cable hanger? wait is your fork not drilled for a brake? oh yeah, it's one of those cantilever brake deals or something. weird.
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> Why?

because you're supposed to signal with your left hand. this way, you can use your right hand for your more efficient front brake in traffic while signaling.

sheldon brown was all about it, if that adds any credibility. :)

yeah, i have cantilever brakes. my bike is half track/fix and half cyclocross.
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15 years ago
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actually, in europe the brake levers are set up the same way. at least in norway
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15 years ago
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yeah, sheldon says they are reversed in the uk. (maybe also in japan?)
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15 years ago
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i've been thinking about changing mine too
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15 years ago
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I'm looking at panniers and racks right now.

Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus panniers.htm

Tubus Vega rear rack.htm

also considering the Lone Peak P-100s.htm since they're cheaper. they're less waterproof because of the zippers though. just don't know if the Ortliebs are worth the money yet, especially if I upgrade to a larger size if/when I do a cross-country tour (the ones I'm buying now will be used initially for weekend-type trips.).
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15 years ago
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nice links :)
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I recently purchased a Topeak QR Beam Rack, MTX V style with a set of Deuter Rack Pack Panniers. The Rack is light, looks sweet but tends to swivel a bit. The Packs didn't work so well on my mountain bike which tended to catch the hooks for near disastrous results, however on my street bike the bags and rack kick serious ass. ironically the rack is marketed especially for mountain bikes.
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aw man, why did those fuck up?

ah, the pesky %20s.

Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus panniers
http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Vega/VEGA%20PAGE.htm


Tubus Vega rear rack
http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Vega/VEGA%20PAGE.htm


Lone Peak P-100 panniers
http://www.thetouringstore.com/LONE%20PEAK/LP%20PANNIERS/P100/P100%20PANNIERS%20PAGE.htm
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15 years ago
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thinking about grabbing a pair of these Soma fenders

I've seen a bike with the red ones and they are HOT.
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sweet
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15 years ago
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just ordered a pair in silver!
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ever since reading this

http://somafab.blogspot.com/search/label/touring%20frame


on the Soma blog a couple of months ago I've been dying to hear more about it!

- We would also like to officially announce we are developing a heavy duty touring frame.
Details:
1. Flat crown fork with double eyelets at the dropouts. Low rider pannier mounts, too.
2. Thicker butted tubing than our Double Cross frames. Heat treated front triangle.
3. Spoke holder, pump peg, three set of bottle bosses.
4. No disc brake mount... keepin' it traditional
5. 54's and smaller will be made for 26" tires.
6. Name and color not chosen yet.
7. We have no official release date

We pretty much have decided all the specs and geometry, but if you guys wanna desktop coach us, please feel free to post comments.

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15 years ago
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i had the kona sutra recommended to me as a good touring bike.
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dp: sf-area bike for sale--
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/765370039.html

:9
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15 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I love it when guys refer to their genitals as "junk"
What a fucking turn-on!
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15 years ago
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hahaha
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15 years ago
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i don't need any other transportation solutions at the moment. good find though for badasses!
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15 years ago
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bike currently
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15 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Niiiiiiice.
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14 years ago
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i want to go camping on sable island, but i think it's illegal.
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14 years ago
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can you ride out there? totally weird that it's like directly east from Portland. I should visit Nova Scotia; it's so close!

I seriously need to decrease the ratio on my fixed gear. riding my road bike has spoiled me with regard to appropriate gears for all speeds and I think the weight of the bike too. I rode it the other day and was like, "wow, this feels amazing." I was also wearing bike shorts which feels like riding on a cloud.
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haha yeah, that is pretty weird. you can't actually land on the island as far as i know, it is a wildlife reserve and research station.

for those who don't feel like reading up on it, it's a huge sandbar (42 km long, 2km wide) way out in the atlantic with a ton of feral horses on it. it's one of the most concentrated areas of shipwrecks in the world, as it gets really foggy and it has a lot of marine traffic density.
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
You make it sound like an episode of Scooby-Doo.
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14 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I read a book when I was young about that island. I loved it.

I had dreams about it for a long time.
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i have a long list of crazy islands, i can't wait to share it with you all
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14 years ago
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thoughts on the giro transfer? it looks like a good, inexpensive road helmet. i like the white (only $30 on amazon!).
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14 years ago
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I think that might be the helmet I have. or it's at least very similar. I like it. sometimes the straps irritate the area in front of my ears, but I could probably fix this with a little adjusting. and it only happens if I have it on for at least an hour or so.

I probably posted this somewhere (I think in a plans thread) but part of me still really wishes I hadn't taken this job and had saved up some money to do a long bike tour instead.

:/
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14 years ago
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No time off?
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14 years ago
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not enough for a cross-country tour :).
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14 years ago
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maybe that's what i'll do next summer. gotta build a touring bike, though. :o
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14 years ago
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yeah, I would have to as well if I wanted to do something really long.

if the weather cooperates I'm going to try to do some short cycling/camping tours on my road bike before the summer is over. maybe over a long weekend or two. I need some panniers.
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i just put up my bike for sale at a local bike swap for $925 (or $845 during the last hour of the sale).

i also put up my cherished pair of nokian w240 tires for $70 (or $60 discount).

considering the bike cost $1400 to build, i think that's reasonable. i think the pair of tires cost about $100. the sale is run by a nice local non-profit bike club, so i don't mind the 15% commission they take too much.
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13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
:(
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13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
bye bye bike
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the bike didn't sale. i'll post it on craiglist and subsequently ebay.

the tires sold (in the morning for $70).
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Picked up a pair of DZR bike shoes.
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12 years ago
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Are those like surf booties but with grippies on the bottom?

*hopehopehope*
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12 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
http://www.dzrshoes.com/product/ovis/
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12 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
It's an interesting design....
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12 years ago
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Oh. Leather Converses, basically
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12 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I usually wear vans classics... so similar design. They integrated some seat belt material across the front and down into the soul behind the clip plates. So it kinda makes the shoe act as a toe clip without having to be severally hardened.

See how it works.
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12 years ago
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I want to try a new route to work tomorrow:

http://tinyurl.com/3kbzaxs
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12 years ago
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I'll take some pictures of the route when the flowers in Vigelandsparken start blooming.
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12 years ago
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I miss your pictures, bluet.
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12 years ago
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I'm getting a free Trek mountain bike from my buddy! I'm putting racks on that sucker (if I can ... not sure if it'll be over complicated or not) and doing some real riding again!
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8 years ago
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have you guys seen Mission Workshop messenger bags ? they look pretty nice--a bit expensive, but what made-in-america bag isn't?

i don't have a messenger bag at the moment, only:
filson briefcase computer bag
ortlieb front-roller panniers
tubus cosmo rear rack

the filson bag doesn't really fit into a pannier, and it sucks to wear it while i ride. i can strap it to the top of the rack with bungee cords, but it seems insecure. i don't really want another bag just for use on my bike, though. not sure what to do.

right now, every time i use my bike, i transfer the contents of the filson bag to a pannier. it's a pain. but i guess it would be the same story with a messenger bag. bleh.
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8 years ago
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Those do look nice. And 1000d cordura is pretty rugged stuff all things considered. That price tag, though....
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3 years ago
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lr, for cycling >200km i get my calories from a combo of homemade rice bars (shortgrain rice cooked in juice + nuts/dried fruit), candy (gummy bears/worms) and store bars like clif or whatever
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3 years ago
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haha, thanks for responding to my strava comment here!

very impressed by those rides.

and that's all sufficient? you don't have a more specialized general diet?
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3 years ago
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nah i eat a ton of food. i'm actually a bit overweight i'd guess. gained a lot of weight during pandemic as i suck at portion control and despite cycling 15 hours a week without walking my caloric needs are definitely impacted. nice thing about biking is that weight won't hurt me, if i was a runner carrying that weight would increase likelihood of injury.
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3 years ago
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yeah portion control is difficult for me too. also being in my apartment all the time with a fully stocked kitchen makes not overeating very difficult
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3 years ago
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haha exactly, when i was out of the house more/working in an office it was much easier to manage!
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3 years ago
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I kind of miss bike stuff! I ride like once a year at this point and MA suburbs kinda suck for cycling.